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mistakebytehlak


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you agreed with a point
ive already proposed what id do
and you agreed on the DL front

there was nothing else to say
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fsubrowns9510 wrote:
anyways... if this was your team and you were gm how would you attack the offseason?

i understand not trading away any young players but what else would you do on d?

who do you think fits where?

who is left without a proper position?


when i was gm, it was never my team- i let the majority do what they wanted to do

like i said
good luck guys
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
you agreed with a point
ive already proposed what id do
and you agreed on the DL front

there was nothing else to say


would you consider a sheldon signing and move to fs and have in here as a depth cb?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
freakygeniuskid wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
robertson is fast, young and hits like a ton of bricks... why cant he back up D'Qwell in the Lawrence Timmons role?

Especially if there's a bunch of beef in Taylor, Hughes, Rubin, Winn infront of him? I'm not convinced that Frostee Rucker cant be good in the 3-4 as well


Because he's (generously) 230 and the typical ILB in the 3-4 is about 240-245? Not saying he CAN'T at all. Just saying that I think he'd likely be better in the 4-3 and that if we can get 4-3 value for him we should do it. Obviously, we haven't gotten the value we're looking for and thus haven't made the move.


And I'm saying lets see him in the 34 before we get rid of him
Dudes a baller
Ballers tend to ball regardless of scheme, especially when Horton played the 2-4-5 nickel a lot in AZ last year. Gonna need fast backers.

Look at all the ILB's we have.

WILB- D'Qwell Jackson/ Kaluka Maiava/ Craig Robertson/ Adrian Moten/ Emmanuel Acho
SILB- Chris Gocong/ James Michael-Johnson/ L.J. Fort/ Tank Carder

That's why we're looking into moving a couple of them, rather than just cutting them. We have too many.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReggieCamp wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
freakygeniuskid wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
robertson is fast, young and hits like a ton of bricks... why cant he back up D'Qwell in the Lawrence Timmons role?

Especially if there's a bunch of beef in Taylor, Hughes, Rubin, Winn infront of him? I'm not convinced that Frostee Rucker cant be good in the 3-4 as well


Because he's (generously) 230 and the typical ILB in the 3-4 is about 240-245? Not saying he CAN'T at all. Just saying that I think he'd likely be better in the 4-3 and that if we can get 4-3 value for him we should do it. Obviously, we haven't gotten the value we're looking for and thus haven't made the move.


And I'm saying lets see him in the 34 before we get rid of him
Dudes a baller
Ballers tend to ball regardless of scheme, especially when Horton played the 2-4-5 nickel a lot in AZ last year. Gonna need fast backers.

Look at all the ILB's we have.

WILB- D'Qwell Jackson/ Kaluka Maiava/ Craig Robertson/ Adrian Moten/ Emmanuel Acho
SILB- Chris Gocong/ James Michael-Johnson/ L.J. Fort/ Tank Carder

That's why we're looking into moving a couple of them, rather than just cutting them. We have too many.


Thats fine
I commented on Robertson because I like Robertson
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems to me like he fits into the "little guys that can hit" part of Horton's mantra
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistake

I'd agree about Hughes and rather not trade him.

I'm asking his value because at least 2 teams have made offers for him.

Even though we didn't think they were good offers, we have to consider his value at some point in case a trade were to come up that might appeal to us.



I was just wondering how you felt about his value.

And we def are thankful for the opinions.

I wish some of you guys would be more involved with this even though there isn't an "official" title
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big picture, trade-wise, I didn't expect us to do much, if anything. We still might if the right fit comes along. Swapping a 4-3 piece for a 3-4 piece still makes sense in theory.

But free agency is where we'll need to plug a few holes. As much as I liked Heckert, I didn't like how he would enter the draft with a screaming need on the roster (or 3) and essentially force us to draft certain positions. CB is a current example. I'd like to sign 2 of them in FA.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
fsubrowns9510 wrote:
anyways... if this was your team and you were gm how would you attack the offseason?

i understand not trading away any young players but what else would you do on d?

who do you think fits where?

who is left without a proper position?


when i was gm, it was never my team- i let the majority do what they wanted to do

like i said
good luck guys


hope ya stick around so we can get some input
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReggieCamp wrote:
Big picture, trade-wise, I didn't expect us to do much, if anything. We still might if the right fit comes along. Swapping a 4-3 piece for a 3-4 piece still makes sense in theory.

But free agency is where we'll need to plug a few holes. As much as I liked Heckert, I didn't like how he would enter the draft with a screaming need on the roster (or 3) and essentially force us to draft certain positions. CB is a current example. I'd like to sign 2 of them in FA.


Agreed


We don't have many trade assets. Most of them are going to be an intregal part of our team moving forward.

TBH, if we had a 2nd this year, I'd be willing to ship that for a proven guy just because I don't think this draft is that good.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fsubrowns9510 wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
fsubrowns9510 wrote:
anyways... if this was your team and you were gm how would you attack the offseason?

i understand not trading away any young players but what else would you do on d?

who do you think fits where?

who is left without a proper position?


when i was gm, it was never my team- i let the majority do what they wanted to do

like i said
good luck guys


hope ya stick around so we can get some input


offended? no, i just dont like interacting with passive aggressive people, removing myself from the situation before a blowup happens that gets me warned/banned

see you got the ninja edit in


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning gentlemen, did I miss much last night
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zelbell wrote:
Morning gentlemen, did I miss much last night


Don't think so.

Just patiently waiting for FA to start lol
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
fsubrowns9510 wrote:
mistakebytehlak wrote:
fsubrowns9510 wrote:
anyways... if this was your team and you were gm how would you attack the offseason?

i understand not trading away any young players but what else would you do on d?

who do you think fits where?

who is left without a proper position?


when i was gm, it was never my team- i let the majority do what they wanted to do

like i said
good luck guys


hope ya stick around so we can get some input


offended? no, i just dont like interacting with passive aggressive people, removing myself from the situation before a blowup happens that gets me warned/banned

see you got the ninja edit in


yea i edited it cuz you said you were leaving and you stick around for a few solid posts; i was hoping for more
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So apparently the cap has to be finalized by 8 tonight.

But I don't have the spreadsheet.

Hmmmmmmm

lol
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