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mistakebytehlak
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you agreed with a point
ive already proposed what id do
and you agreed on the DL front
there was nothing else to say
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mistakebytehlak
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| fsubrowns9510 wrote: | anyways... if this was your team and you were gm how would you attack the offseason?
i understand not trading away any young players but what else would you do on d?
who do you think fits where?
who is left without a proper position? |
when i was gm, it was never my team- i let the majority do what they wanted to do
like i said
good luck guys
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | you agreed with a point
ive already proposed what id do
and you agreed on the DL front
there was nothing else to say |
would you consider a sheldon signing and move to fs and have in here as a depth cb?
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | freakygeniuskid wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | robertson is fast, young and hits like a ton of bricks... why cant he back up D'Qwell in the Lawrence Timmons role?
Especially if there's a bunch of beef in Taylor, Hughes, Rubin, Winn infront of him? I'm not convinced that Frostee Rucker cant be good in the 3-4 as well |
Because he's (generously) 230 and the typical ILB in the 3-4 is about 240-245? Not saying he CAN'T at all. Just saying that I think he'd likely be better in the 4-3 and that if we can get 4-3 value for him we should do it. Obviously, we haven't gotten the value we're looking for and thus haven't made the move. |
And I'm saying lets see him in the 34 before we get rid of him
Dudes a baller
Ballers tend to ball regardless of scheme, especially when Horton played the 2-4-5 nickel a lot in AZ last year. Gonna need fast backers. |
Look at all the ILB's we have.
WILB- D'Qwell Jackson/ Kaluka Maiava/ Craig Robertson/ Adrian Moten/ Emmanuel Acho
SILB- Chris Gocong/ James Michael-Johnson/ L.J. Fort/ Tank Carder
That's why we're looking into moving a couple of them, rather than just cutting them. We have too many.
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mistakebytehlak
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| ReggieCamp wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | freakygeniuskid wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | robertson is fast, young and hits like a ton of bricks... why cant he back up D'Qwell in the Lawrence Timmons role?
Especially if there's a bunch of beef in Taylor, Hughes, Rubin, Winn infront of him? I'm not convinced that Frostee Rucker cant be good in the 3-4 as well |
Because he's (generously) 230 and the typical ILB in the 3-4 is about 240-245? Not saying he CAN'T at all. Just saying that I think he'd likely be better in the 4-3 and that if we can get 4-3 value for him we should do it. Obviously, we haven't gotten the value we're looking for and thus haven't made the move. |
And I'm saying lets see him in the 34 before we get rid of him
Dudes a baller
Ballers tend to ball regardless of scheme, especially when Horton played the 2-4-5 nickel a lot in AZ last year. Gonna need fast backers. |
Look at all the ILB's we have.
WILB- D'Qwell Jackson/ Kaluka Maiava/ Craig Robertson/ Adrian Moten/ Emmanuel Acho
SILB- Chris Gocong/ James Michael-Johnson/ L.J. Fort/ Tank Carder
That's why we're looking into moving a couple of them, rather than just cutting them. We have too many. |
Thats fine
I commented on Robertson because I like Robertson
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mistakebytehlak
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seems to me like he fits into the "little guys that can hit" part of Horton's mantra
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Mistake
I'd agree about Hughes and rather not trade him.
I'm asking his value because at least 2 teams have made offers for him.
Even though we didn't think they were good offers, we have to consider his value at some point in case a trade were to come up that might appeal to us.
I was just wondering how you felt about his value.
And we def are thankful for the opinions.
I wish some of you guys would be more involved with this even though there isn't an "official" title
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Big picture, trade-wise, I didn't expect us to do much, if anything. We still might if the right fit comes along. Swapping a 4-3 piece for a 3-4 piece still makes sense in theory.
But free agency is where we'll need to plug a few holes. As much as I liked Heckert, I didn't like how he would enter the draft with a screaming need on the roster (or 3) and essentially force us to draft certain positions. CB is a current example. I'd like to sign 2 of them in FA.
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | fsubrowns9510 wrote: | anyways... if this was your team and you were gm how would you attack the offseason?
i understand not trading away any young players but what else would you do on d?
who do you think fits where?
who is left without a proper position? |
when i was gm, it was never my team- i let the majority do what they wanted to do
like i said
good luck guys |
hope ya stick around so we can get some input
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nugpimpen
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| ReggieCamp wrote: | Big picture, trade-wise, I didn't expect us to do much, if anything. We still might if the right fit comes along. Swapping a 4-3 piece for a 3-4 piece still makes sense in theory.
But free agency is where we'll need to plug a few holes. As much as I liked Heckert, I didn't like how he would enter the draft with a screaming need on the roster (or 3) and essentially force us to draft certain positions. CB is a current example. I'd like to sign 2 of them in FA. |
Agreed
We don't have many trade assets. Most of them are going to be an intregal part of our team moving forward.
TBH, if we had a 2nd this year, I'd be willing to ship that for a proven guy just because I don't think this draft is that good.
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mistakebytehlak
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| fsubrowns9510 wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | fsubrowns9510 wrote: | anyways... if this was your team and you were gm how would you attack the offseason?
i understand not trading away any young players but what else would you do on d?
who do you think fits where?
who is left without a proper position? |
when i was gm, it was never my team- i let the majority do what they wanted to do
like i said
good luck guys |
hope ya stick around so we can get some input |
offended? no, i just dont like interacting with passive aggressive people, removing myself from the situation before a blowup happens that gets me warned/banned
see you got the ninja edit in
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zelbell
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| Morning gentlemen, did I miss much last night |
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nugpimpen
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| zelbell wrote: | | Morning gentlemen, did I miss much last night |
Don't think so.
Just patiently waiting for FA to start lol
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fsubrowns9510
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | fsubrowns9510 wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | fsubrowns9510 wrote: | anyways... if this was your team and you were gm how would you attack the offseason?
i understand not trading away any young players but what else would you do on d?
who do you think fits where?
who is left without a proper position? |
when i was gm, it was never my team- i let the majority do what they wanted to do
like i said
good luck guys |
hope ya stick around so we can get some input |
offended? no, i just dont like interacting with passive aggressive people, removing myself from the situation before a blowup happens that gets me warned/banned
see you got the ninja edit in |
yea i edited it cuz you said you were leaving and you stick around for a few solid posts; i was hoping for more
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So apparently the cap has to be finalized by 8 tonight.
But I don't have the spreadsheet.
Hmmmmmmm
lol
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