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 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:45 pm Post subject: Franchise Tag Question- CB Derek Cox |
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One Year Franchise Tag Tender is $ $10.668 million for Cornerbacks. Cox will turn 27 prior to week 3 of the 2013 Season.
Does Franchising Derek Cox make sense and is it a path GM David Caldwell will consider?
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Adrenaline_Flux
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Worse players have received the franchise tag in recent years and with as much cap as we have and the "limited free agency activity" we've heard that we'll have, I think it'd make sense for him to franchise tag Derek Cox.
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At worst it gives him a reason to stay healthy. If he can't then we cut our loses and move on.
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| Its A Sabotage wrote: | | At worst it gives him a reason to stay healthy. If he can't then we cut our loses and move on. |
I'm thinking along these lines, although he would likely be cheaper by the year if he got a 3, 4 or 5 year deal.
A three year deal worth around $7.5 million per with fair guarentees would be a bargain if he could avoid his nagging injuries.
I didn't realize he was so close to 30.
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I was first thinking HELL NO, but I guess it would make sense. if he plays well, sign him, if not, kick him to the curb
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| MoJo122-b-21 wrote: | | Its A Sabotage wrote: | | At worst it gives him a reason to stay healthy. If he can't then we cut our loses and move on. |
I'm thinking along these lines, although he would likely be cheaper by the year if he got a 3, 4 or 5 year deal.
A three year deal worth around $7.5 million per with fair guarentees would be a bargain if he could avoid his nagging injuries.
I didn't realize he was so close to 30. |
I like the bolded idea. I'd have no problem paying him as long as it was tied to playing time/productivity.
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| Yibbyl wrote: | | MoJo122-b-21 wrote: | | Its A Sabotage wrote: | | At worst it gives him a reason to stay healthy. If he can't then we cut our loses and move on. |
I'm thinking along these lines, although he would likely be cheaper by the year if he got a 3, 4 or 5 year deal.
A three year deal worth around $7.5 million per with fair guarentees would be a bargain if he could avoid his nagging injuries.
I didn't realize he was so close to 30. |
I like the bolded idea. I'd have no problem paying him as long as it was tied to playing time/productivity. |
So are you a jags fan or what? I see the buffalo sig, so im just curious. Nothing personal, just wondering what you're doing here, but you havnt ruffled any feathers
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MoJo122-b-21
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| Yibbyl wrote: | | MoJo122-b-21 wrote: | | Its A Sabotage wrote: | | At worst it gives him a reason to stay healthy. If he can't then we cut our loses and move on. |
I'm thinking along these lines, although he would likely be cheaper by the year if he got a 3, 4 or 5 year deal.
A three year deal worth around $7.5 million per with fair guarentees would be a bargain if he could avoid his nagging injuries.
I didn't realize he was so close to 30. |
I like the bolded idea. I'd have no problem paying him as long as it was tied to playing time/productivity. |
I have to assume the front office would prefer incentives in lieu of gurentees but because he's a free agent, there has to be some sort of stability in the contract.
I think he eventually gets approached in a similar way Gene dealt with our free agents last season - letting him test the market, but never really leave town.
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Franchising him makes the a lot sense to me. Give him a year with a new Strength and Conditioning staff and see if he can clear up the soft tissue injuries.
He should absolutely be worth the cost of the Franchise tag if he stays healthy, and if he doesn't stay healthy, you can let him go knowing that you trust that he's never really going to stay healthy.
Incentives deal makes a lot of sense, but I'm not sure he would go for that. And if you can get him on a deal for the cheap, do that over the Franchise tag.
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JaguarCrazy2832
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yea, i just dont see him going for an incentive-based deal.
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | yea, i just dont see him going for an incentive-based deal. |
It really depends on the market for his services. I think we'll make a strong push for him, but it ultimately depends on his market.
Obviously, I don't really want to franchise the guy. I think he's worth the risk of signing a multi-year deal.
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Yibbyl wrote: | | MoJo122-b-21 wrote: | | Its A Sabotage wrote: | | At worst it gives him a reason to stay healthy. If he can't then we cut our loses and move on. |
I'm thinking along these lines, although he would likely be cheaper by the year if he got a 3, 4 or 5 year deal.
A three year deal worth around $7.5 million per with fair guarentees would be a bargain if he could avoid his nagging injuries.
I didn't realize he was so close to 30. |
I like the bolded idea. I'd have no problem paying him as long as it was tied to playing time/productivity. |
So are you a jags fan or what? I see the buffalo sig, so im just curious. Nothing personal, just wondering what you're doing here, but you havnt ruffled any feathers |
I mentioned in another thread that I will be in and out of here quite a bit because of the Bradley hire. The short back-story to this is that his wife Michaela's family was essentially my refuge when I was growing up and dealing with some garbage. So, as long as Bradley's the coach, I'm gonna be rooting for you guys - as long as you aren't playing the Bills, of course. 
BTW, just to get this out of the way, I have absolutely no insight, no lines of communication with any of the coaching or FO staff, so won't be a source of any news, insight, etc. The only thing I've heard since his hire is that Gus was very excited for the opportunity to coach the team and the family was happy to be moving back to Florida. Frankly, pretty much info you could get by searching the internet.
Anyway, I certainly don't intend to, nor will I probably ever, ruffle any feathers unless there are people here who can't handle unbiased opinions.
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That's pretty cool man, even if the circumstances weren't the best.
It's always nice to see some new people in here. Hopefully you're around here for a couple decades.
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| iPwn wrote: | Franchising him makes the a lot sense to me. Give him a year with a new Strength and Conditioning staff and see if he can clear up the soft tissue injuries.
He should absolutely be worth the cost of the Franchise tag if he stays healthy, and if he doesn't stay healthy, you can let him go knowing that you trust that he's never really going to stay healthy.
Incentives deal makes a lot of sense, but I'm not sure he would go for that. And if you can get him on a deal for the cheap, do that over the Franchise tag. |
Yeah, i think he's got too much leverage to see him strong-armed into any sort of incentive-heavy deal at this point. If that's all we offer up and he doesn't like it...he can walk, and it's hard to imagine there wouldn't be a decent group of suitors. Cox and his agent are just as aware as we are, of his extensive injury history, and there will be other teams who think they can fix that somehow, or at least think luck will be on their side. 
He's a talented player...when healthy, at a pretty high-demand position.
Franchise tagging would be a pretty big chunk of change if he puts in the usual half-season type campaign. But if he could stay healthy and on top of his game for a full year, he'd be worth it. And really, i can't think of anyone else this year who would be a better candidate. So if it comes to that, i wouldn't be too upset if we gave it a shot.
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