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nugpimpen 
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| driftwood wrote: | | MNPackfan32 wrote: | Wait, if Joe Flacco gets $120 million what does Aaron Rodgers get when he is due a new contract after the 2014 season??? Do we even keep a QB for that kind of money? |
we wont be able to resign Rodgers... its well known across all the forums that this is pretty much Graham Herrell's team to lose for the future |
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Mancunian Raven
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Flacco's not getting $20million a year. He just isn't. Even if he was the best QB in the league, he wouldn't get $20million a year from the Ravens, because the Ravens understand that you actually do need another 52 guys on the roster. And if you're to succeed, they have to be pretty good.
His agent might start at that sort of money in negotiations, but he sure as heck won't finish there.
I doubt even Joe Flacco himself would want that kind of money, when he knows how precarious the Ravens' cap situation is. He'd have to weigh up his personal value against the odds of actually having a good team, and I think he'd be more interested in winning than getting a few million a year more. _________________
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mozwanted 
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| TomRalph wrote: | | Oh dear. Flacco is not worth that. Superbowl or otherwise. |
Why not? he has out performed tom brady and manning in the playoffs.
He might not be great in the regular season but he is a beast in the playoffs. If brady played up to flaccos level in the playoffs then patriots would actually win one of those superbowls. |
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El ramster
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| mozwanted wrote: | | TomRalph wrote: | | Oh dear. Flacco is not worth that. Superbowl or otherwise. |
Why not? he has out performed tom brady and manning in the playoffs.
He might not be great in the regular season but he is a beast in the playoffs. If brady played up to flaccos level in the playoffs then patriots would actually win one of those superbowls. |
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BladeKor
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| If Flacco does get that kind of money, I would hate to see what Ryan will want. |
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Steelerspower
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Flacco camp believes Joe has outplayed Peyton
| Quote: | Earlier Monday, we passed along news that quarterback Joe Flacco will target Drew Brees money in post-season contract negotiations with the Ravens. Flacco’s rookie deal is up, and he’s not giving them a hometown discount.
Ian Rapoport of NFL Network filed a Monday evening report on Total Access that makes Flacco’s stance seem even stronger and more dug in.
“I’m told his camp believes he is playing better than Peyton Manning,” Rapoport said, referring to the NFL MVP favorite and future Hall of Famer, who pulls in $19.2 million a year. “Expect them to shoot higher than that.” It’s expected that the Ravens and Flacco will resume contract deliberations immediately after Sunday’s Super Bowl. |
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/28/flacco-camp-believes-joe-has-outplayed-peyton/ _________________
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Conquest8089
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Flacco is 28 Years Old and just entering his Prime. Let's Talk Comparable Deals.
Philip Rivers signed a 6 Year 92.0 Million extension in 2009 at Age 28. Adding on the remaining year on his previous deal, it totaled 7 Years 98.25 Million w/ 46 million of Guaranteed Money.
Ravens should place the Exclusive Franchise Tag Figure on Flacco- 1 Year 14.662 Million. Used as a placeholder to give Ravens leverage & allow the negotiation process to play itself out.
Ultimate Deal: Flacco signs 1 Year Franchise Tag Tender.
Ravens Add 6 Years 88.5 Million (42.0 Million Guaranteed)
Basically a 7 Year 102 Million Deal w/ 56.0 Million Guaranteed. _________________ I'd Select Ziggy Ansah 1st Overall |
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MaddHatter 
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Conquest8089 wrote: | Joe Flacco is 28 Years Old and just entering his Prime. Let's Talk Comparable Deals.
Philip Rivers signed a 6 Year 92.0 Million extension in 2009 at Age 28. Adding on the remaining year on his previous deal, it totaled 7 Years 98.25 Million w/ 46 million of Guaranteed Money.
Ravens should place the Exclusive Franchise Tag Figure on Flacco- 1 Year 14.662 Million. Used as a placeholder to give Ravens leverage & allow the negotiation process to play itself out.
Ultimate Deal: Flacco signs 1 Year Franchise Tag Tender.
Ravens Add 6 Years 88.5 Million (42.0 Million Guaranteed)
Basically a 7 Year 102 Million Deal w/ 56.0 Million Guaranteed. |
That was also 4 years prior and the same year that Eli got 7year 106.9m deal.
You have to consider inflation and contract escalation for veterans since the rookie wage scale was implemented. _________________
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BLick12 
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ravens can't win here. They need him as their QB and are going to have to pay a king's ransom for a very inconsistent QB. He has made some nice plays this post season but his career as a whole speaks for itself. Lot of inconsistency. This is much like when the Giants gave Eli his big paycheck. At the time a highly questionable move, hopefully it works out as well for the Ravens as it did for the Giants. _________________
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Another Ginger QB in the AFC North.
Looking forward to the "No Soul Bowl" twice a year
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Conquest8089
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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MaddHatter- I agree with you on factoring in Inflation, but Eli's Contract did not get this close to Free Agency. The Franchise Tag was never utilized.
Oddly enough the contract of LB Dannell Ellerbe factors into the situation. Joe Linta of JL Sports also represents the LB. Would he be willing to leave that inflation markup on the table to get Dannell resigned?
Just speculation. _________________ I'd Select Ziggy Ansah 1st Overall |
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driftwood 
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | | driftwood wrote: | | MNPackfan32 wrote: | Wait, if Joe Flacco gets $120 million what does Aaron Rodgers get when he is due a new contract after the 2014 season??? Do we even keep a QB for that kind of money? |
we wont be able to resign Rodgers... its well known across all the forums that this is pretty much Graham Herrell's team to lose for the future |
Sarcasm? |
absolutely... |
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nugpimpen 
Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 12544 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| driftwood wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | driftwood wrote: | | MNPackfan32 wrote: | Wait, if Joe Flacco gets $120 million what does Aaron Rodgers get when he is due a new contract after the 2014 season??? Do we even keep a QB for that kind of money? |
we wont be able to resign Rodgers... its well known across all the forums that this is pretty much Graham Herrell's team to lose for the future |
Sarcasm? |
absolutely... |
haha i was like wtf _________________
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JuicyJax
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| This is how it works the GM will lowball and the player will ask for the sun and moon and everything beyond. He won't get that kind of money and he hasn't seemed concerned about his contract situation at all. Not sure what the story is here |
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Big Lob
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| He has outplayed Brady and Manning in the playoffs and could very well be the Superbowl MVP. |
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UpTheSeam85
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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