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 Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Ray Horton Intro Press Conference |
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | BwickBrownie wrote: | I just thought it would be relevant to discuss any take-aways people had from the press conference that happened earlier today.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_introduce_ray.html
The biggest thing I took away is that Horton is going to play to our defensive players' strengths, and not take a "Come hell or high water we're running a ____ scheme" like Shurmur did with the West Coast. |
The sign of intelligence
Thank god |
IMO pretty ignorant to say that the other way is un-intelligent
as long as the team gets more than 2 years to fill the scheme with players that fit it, it should work
see Bill Walsh |
Yes, and the QB needs time to learn a complex system...see Brett Favre and others
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Most teams are going with offensive minded coaches i think he will get to stay awhile i hope.......
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| cthomas09 wrote: | | Most teams are going with offensive minded coaches i think he will get to stay awhile i hope....... |
Nah. When we go 23-0 we will have to get a new OC and DC
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My biggest fear about this new defense is giving up big plays.
I think of that Miami vs. Arizona game from earlier this year. The one where Hartline looked like Jerry Rice.
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| kelbot wrote: | My biggest fear about this new defense is giving up big plays.
I think of that Miami vs. Arizona game from earlier this year. The one where Hartline looked like Jerry Rice. |
I think that's a reasonable concern. Having a more aggressive defense is fun and all, but it definitely makes you more vulnerable to the big play.
I really don't think Jauron was all that conservative. It seemed like we blitzed plenty. Granted, we weren't always the best at getting to the QB (even when we blitzed), and I wasn't a fan of some of our blitz designs, but at least Jauron tried to be aggressive. I've always been a big fan of LeBeau's blitz designs, and that seems to be exactly what Horton will do.
More big plays against us probably, but hopefully more big plays for us also.
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Just finished listening to the PC. It's only talk, but I like what I heard.
- Horton already watched the tape of all the Browns games.
- He said he loves the way the team is currently constructed, from a personnel standpoint.
- He resisted every opportunity to disparage the previous coaches. In fact, he was complimentary.
- Handled all the questions about being passed over for HC with a lot of class and honesty.
- He particularly loves the bug guys on the D-line and their athleticism.
Can't wait to see what he does.
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| kelbot wrote: | My biggest fear about this new defense is giving up big plays.
I think of that Miami vs. Arizona game from earlier this year. The one where Hartline looked like Jerry Rice. |
We won't have to worry about Hartline since he'll be on the team 
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| Marky wrote: | | kelbot wrote: | My biggest fear about this new defense is giving up big plays.
I think of that Miami vs. Arizona game from earlier this year. The one where Hartline looked like Jerry Rice. |
We won't have to worry about Hartline since he'll be on the team |
Well played sir.
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| hornbybrown wrote: | | cthomas09 wrote: | | Most teams are going with offensive minded coaches i think he will get to stay awhile i hope....... |
Nah. When we go 23-0 we will have to get a new OC and DC |
Wow...even going undefeated in the preseason.....Strong 
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"Big men that can run, little men that can hit"
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| frye to edwards wrote: | | "Big men that can run, little men that can hit" |
Honestly a pretty herp derp statement |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Ray Horton Intro Press Conference |
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| Entropy wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | BwickBrownie wrote: | I just thought it would be relevant to discuss any take-aways people had from the press conference that happened earlier today.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_introduce_ray.html
The biggest thing I took away is that Horton is going to play to our defensive players' strengths, and not take a "Come hell or high water we're running a ____ scheme" like Shurmur did with the West Coast. |
The sign of intelligence
Thank god |
IMO pretty ignorant to say that the other way is un-intelligent
as long as the team gets more than 2 years to fill the scheme with players that fit it, it should work
see Bill Walsh |
Yes, and the QB needs time to learn a complex system...see Brett Favre and others |
You coach to fit the talent you have.
Yes, if you come in to a job with the perfect talent to fit your system, then run it.
When you have a hodge podge and may not have the guys you want, you have to adjust.
This game is more about adjustments than anything. And not just on the field adjustments.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Ray Horton Intro Press Conference |
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| nugpimpen wrote: | | Entropy wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | | BwickBrownie wrote: | I just thought it would be relevant to discuss any take-aways people had from the press conference that happened earlier today.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/cleveland_browns_introduce_ray.html
The biggest thing I took away is that Horton is going to play to our defensive players' strengths, and not take a "Come hell or high water we're running a ____ scheme" like Shurmur did with the West Coast. |
The sign of intelligence
Thank god |
IMO pretty ignorant to say that the other way is un-intelligent
as long as the team gets more than 2 years to fill the scheme with players that fit it, it should work
see Bill Walsh |
Yes, and the QB needs time to learn a complex system...see Brett Favre and others |
You coach to fit the talent you have.
Yes, if you come in to a job with the perfect talent to fit your system, then run it.
When you have a hodge podge and may not have the guys you want, you have to adjust.
This game is more about adjustments than anything. And not just on the field adjustments. |
Couldnt agree with you more Nug. To me a good coach is a versatile one... in any facet of life I'm more impressed with someone who can adjust to the resources available than someone who needs the right pieces to be successful. |
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| Ether wrote: | | frye to edwards wrote: | | "Big men that can run, little men that can hit" |
Honestly a pretty herp derp statement |
Not really 
It speaks to the specific scheme that he wants to run. Not every scheme uses those types of players.
Also sheds some light on what players we may want to bring in, keep, or cut.
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| pnies20 wrote: | | Ether wrote: | | frye to edwards wrote: | | "Big men that can run, little men that can hit" |
Honestly a pretty herp derp statement |
Not really
It speaks to the specific scheme that he wants to run. Not every scheme uses those types of players.
Also sheds some light on what players we may want to bring in, keep, or cut. |
I also think it defines his expectations... "Hey Buster Skrine, you're pretty fast! That's awesome! But your tackle on (insert opposing offensive player here) sucked... you're sitting." I love that he won't put up with a one trick pony. |
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