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PurplePeterson


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops I thought you all talking about 1998
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Chris Doleman had 11 sacks in 1987, the rest of the D-line put together about 10 sacks including Millard with 3.
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Yes, any team winning the Conference championship to get to the SB has momentum. The Vikings got past the first ever playoff Saints in the WC round. They bested Walsh's 49ers and hung close with the Redskins.

They beat some good teams during the season. But they were swept by the Bears and Packers and split with the lowly '87 Bucs.

They lost Wade Wilson for six games and ten year veteran Kramer didn't post good numbers.

Wade Wilson 2,106 yards passing 14 TD 13 INT 76.7 QB rating ran for 263 yards 5 TD 12 games

Tommy Kramer 452 yards passing 4 TD 3 INT 67.5 rating ran for 44 yards 2 TD 6 games

Don't think Wade Wilson could have won the SB against Kosar, Elway or Williams.


The Vikings had already beaten Elway that year and had just beaten Montana/Young in the playoffs. Throughout the course of their careers Wilson proved to be a better QB than Williams was, and Williams won the Super Bowl. A great QB is important it's not everything.
Vikings replacement players lost games to the Bucs, Packers and Bears.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then the term "taking the browns to the super bowl" would actually have context.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worm Guts wrote:
Badger75 wrote:

Yes, any team winning the Conference championship to get to the SB has momentum. The Vikings got past the first ever playoff Saints in the WC round. They bested Walsh's 49ers and hung close with the Redskins.

They beat some good teams during the season. But they were swept by the Bears and Packers and split with the lowly '87 Bucs.

They lost Wade Wilson for six games and ten year veteran Kramer didn't post good numbers.

Wade Wilson 2,106 yards passing 14 TD 13 INT 76.7 QB rating ran for 263 yards 5 TD 12 games

Tommy Kramer 452 yards passing 4 TD 3 INT 67.5 rating ran for 44 yards 2 TD 6 games

Don't think Wade Wilson could have won the SB against Kosar, Elway or Williams.


The Vikings had already beaten Elway that year and had just beaten Montana/Young in the playoffs. Throughout the course of their careers Wilson proved to be a better QB than Williams was, and Williams won the Super Bowl. A great QB is important it's not everything.
Vikings replacement players lost games to the Bucs, Packers and Bears.


Doug Williams was a rookie QB with the late '70's expansion Buccaneers. That team peaked in '79 with the NFC championship game loss to the LA Rams, who in turn, lost the SB to Bradshaw's Steelers. Another mysterious SB with odd moments.

Williams and the Bucs then went through a hellish set of tragedies that knocked the team off course. Williams joined Steve Young in the USFL. Then the Redskins. Only Young landed with the loser Bucs.

The replacements only played the first three NFL games. The Vikings regulars lost the others, in the central division, to the Bears and Packers.

A good, not near-great team. The Browns had better balance on offense and a great secondary. With Wilson's tendency to throw INT's, the Browns would have won.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The replacements only played the first three NFL games. The Vikings regulars lost the others, in the central division, to the Bears and Packers.

It was only 3 games, but it wasn't the first 3. The Vikings replacements played the Bucs, Bears and Packers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Minnesota_Vikings_season

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The games played October 4, 11 and 18 were played with replacement players.


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Doug Williams was a rookie QB with the late '70's expansion Buccaneers. That team peaked in '79 with the NFC championship game loss to the LA Rams, who in turn, lost the SB to Bradshaw's Steelers. Another mysterious SB with odd moments.

Williams and the Bucs then went through a hellish set of tragedies that knocked the team off course. Williams joined Steve Young in the USFL. Then the Redskins. Only Young landed with the loser Bucs.


In '79 the Bucs were good, but Williams was not. He had a 52 rating and a 41% completion percentage. The only season Williams ever had over an 80 rating was in '87 and he only started 2 games that year. Wade Wilson was a Pro Bowl QB in 88 and led the league in passer rating.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn you

Damn you for making this thread

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