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Joe_is_the_best
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When you think of which player his respective team couldn't do without, it's Peterson.
Was Watt amazing and key to his teams success? Yeah, but they also fared well last year with him at a limited basis, and their defense suffered after Cushing went out.
Just because Peterson is a RB, it doesn't mean we should invalidate him as MVP.
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This would be Calvin if we actually won games. 
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| Nbanflguy wrote: | | incognito_man wrote: | | I'm glad that ultimately Peterson won it because in reality it should have come down to Rodgers or Peterson depending on how you view the award. |
O really? You were the guy saying that Adrian would not have been in your top 10? A big chance of heart |
He's borderline top 10 if you view it truly as the most VALUABLE player which I do. So ultimately I prefer Peterson win it (more of a most OUTSTANDING player award) than see Peyton win it who was neither the most outstanding nor the most valuable. |
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| GaTechRavens wrote: |
And the thing is, there is absolutely no justification towards having a bias towards running backs. The position is absolutely not valuable relative to others.
It should not have gone to any quarterback, and it probably should not have gone to Peterson. JJ Watt was the best player in the NFL this year, and deserved to be awarded accordingly. |
You don't like the Vikings do you. Carter shouldn't be in the HOF and Peterson doesn't deserve the MVP. Any other accomplishments we should give back?
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I'm so happy he won it, I'm tired of QB's winning because of media hype. It's bad enough Luck got voted over Wilson for ROTY, even though RG3 deservedly won it.
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Really glad the voters got this one right.
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Congrated to Peterson, since I haven't been on much this weekend. It was a well deserved win for both of those things as he directly carried the team into the playoffs through the time that Ponder was struggling and Harvin had gone down.
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Absolutely deserving and glad to see the kid from Palestine win it.
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| GaTechRavens wrote: |
And the thing is, there is absolutely no justification towards having a bias towards running backs. The position is absolutely not valuable relative to others.
It should not have gone to any quarterback, and it probably should not have gone to Peterson. JJ Watt was the best player in the NFL this year, and deserved to be awarded accordingly. |
Adrian Peterson in my eyes had a better year. He was the offense, teams stacked the box and still couldnt stop him. JJ Watt is on a better team, so i give the edge to AP. Nothing against JJ Watt (although some texans fans may think i do have something against them), AP just that had that special of a year.
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| GaTechRavens wrote: |
And the thing is, there is absolutely no justification towards having a bias towards running backs. The position is absolutely not valuable relative to others.
It should not have gone to any quarterback, and it probably should not have gone to Peterson. JJ Watt was the best player in the NFL this year, and deserved to be awarded accordingly. |
Wait, so because Adrian Peterson is a Runningback, he shouldn't win? You don't think he was key to our success?
I don't get it at all. Sure guys like Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers are huge reasons to their teams success, but Adrian just went off this year. Not many, if any had quite the success he had at times.
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| SteelKing728 wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: |
And the thing is, there is absolutely no justification towards having a bias towards running backs. The position is absolutely not valuable relative to others.
It should not have gone to any quarterback, and it probably should not have gone to Peterson. JJ Watt was the best player in the NFL this year, and deserved to be awarded accordingly. |
Wait, so because Adrian Peterson is a Runningback, he shouldn't win? You don't think he was key to our success?
I don't get it at all. Sure guys like Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers are huge reasons to their teams success, but Adrian just went off this year. Not many, if any had quite the success he had at times. |
I am pretty sure he is saying if theyre going to use the value aspect of the title to decide the winner, then it shouldnt go to a RB. It should go to a QB. He isnt saying he agrees. He is just saying if that is, indeed, the methodolgy (looking for "who is most valuable to his team") then it shouldnt be a RB. Because, for instance, the argument can be made that the most valuable RB on any team is never going to be more valuable than the most valuable QB.
We are really just saying the award can and should be improved. It's worthless in my eyes as it stands now. No more worthwhile than, say, a spot on the all star team. Because the method and reasons for either are so flawed.
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| J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | SteelKing728 wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: |
And the thing is, there is absolutely no justification towards having a bias towards running backs. The position is absolutely not valuable relative to others.
It should not have gone to any quarterback, and it probably should not have gone to Peterson. JJ Watt was the best player in the NFL this year, and deserved to be awarded accordingly. |
Wait, so because Adrian Peterson is a Runningback, he shouldn't win? You don't think he was key to our success?
I don't get it at all. Sure guys like Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers are huge reasons to their teams success, but Adrian just went off this year. Not many, if any had quite the success he had at times. |
I am pretty sure he is saying if theyre going to use the value aspect of the title to decide the winner, then it shouldnt go to a RB. It should go to a QB. He isnt saying he agrees. He is just saying if that is, indeed, the methodolgy (looking for "who is most valuable to his team") then it shouldnt be a RB. Because, for instance, the argument can be made that the most valuable RB on any team is never going to be more valuable than the most valuable QB.
We are really just saying the award can and should be improved. It's worthless in my eyes as it stands now. No more worthwhile than, say, a spot on the all star team. Because the method and reasons for either are so flawed. |
I agree with the fact that QBs are more valuable than RBs but AP got them to the playoffs. Regardless of how many wins. When you see teams winning the SB by winning 10 games in a year, record is not regarded highly it is somewhat dismissed if you make the playoffs.
Look at his second point is what i dont get. AP shouldnt have won it but JJ Watt, why should that be the case? AP in my eyes was more valuable to the Vikings than Watt was to the texans. Not to mention they had just as good a season or maybe even better.
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| Vikefan79 wrote: | | GaTechRavens wrote: |
And the thing is, there is absolutely no justification towards having a bias towards running backs. The position is absolutely not valuable relative to others.
It should not have gone to any quarterback, and it probably should not have gone to Peterson. JJ Watt was the best player in the NFL this year, and deserved to be awarded accordingly. |
You don't like the Vikings do you. Carter shouldn't be in the HOF and Peterson doesn't deserve the MVP. Any other accomplishments we should give back? |
That is not at all what I said.
| SteelKing728 wrote: | | Wait, so because Adrian Peterson is a Runningback, he shouldn't win? You don't think he was key to our success? |
That is not at all what I said.
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IMO Peterson is the rightful MVP because there's no way the Vikings win more than 5 games without him. He was our offense and delivered every game. He was outstanding this season and kept us in games that we would have had no shot in otherwise.
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We may not have gotten over the hump to win a Super Bowl yet, but this is the kind of thing that makes me proud to be a Vikings fan. Adrian Peterson is a great young man that is everything the Vikings and the NFL as a whole should stand for. Bravo Adrian!
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