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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What does the Eagles fan base think of Foles? With the way he played I'd assume he'd warrant a 3rd round pick. I just don't see him fitting in with Chip's offense and Dixon looked pretty good with the Steelers in his short stint as starter. Trading Foles to draft some help in the secondary, o-line, or linebacker spot seems ideal, IMO.
Valid post and good question. Some thought Chip would install an up-tempo, pre-snap read (like New England) type offense, which would suit Foles better. But with Vick getting another chance, and Dixon being brought in as depth, it seems as though Chip will be running more of a read-option/spread style of offense.

So I think trading Foles would make sense, but his value is most likely a 4th right now, as he didn't prove much last year. But for some reason, Chip stated that he wants to hold an open competition between Vick and Foles for that starting job, but I think we all know that it's pretty much Vick's job to lose (even though a lot of Eagles fans were not happy to see Vick coming back).
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Noice. Always a fan of Dixon. Great person
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I want nothing more than to see a Dennis Dixon led, Kelly-coached team win a Super Bowl.

Probably won't happen, though. I don't think DD starts.
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What does the Eagles fan base think of Foles? With the way he played I'd assume he'd warrant a 3rd round pick. I just don't see him fitting in with Chip's offense and Dixon looked pretty good with the Steelers in his short stint as starter. Trading Foles to draft some help in the secondary, o-line, or linebacker spot seems ideal, IMO.


Foles hopefully ends up the starter so we don't run a stupid zone read run first offense.
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bears2308 wrote:
What does the Eagles fan base think of Foles? With the way he played I'd assume he'd warrant a 3rd round pick. I just don't see him fitting in with Chip's offense and Dixon looked pretty good with the Steelers in his short stint as starter. Trading Foles to draft some help in the secondary, o-line, or linebacker spot seems ideal, IMO.


Foles hopefully ends up the starter so we don't run a stupid zone read run first offense.


I don't think you absolutely have to run a zone read if Vick is starting. If anything, Kelly should focus on getting the ball out quickly for Vick, at least at first. Let him restore some of his past confidence before taking off with his legs much. Having him run around too much is the quickest way to bury him imo.
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This is an awesome signing. You get a 3rd string quarterback that will know the terminology of the offense from day one. That means both Foles and Vick will be academically pushed from day one to keep up with Dixon. This is the perfect move to get the best quarterback competition out of Vick and Foles.

That being said I doubt Dixon ever has a shot higher then #2 if Vick is cut preseason and he won't make the roster if they keep Vick.

Great job by the Eagles getting this done.
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This is an awesome signing. You get a 3rd string quarterback that will know the terminology of the offense from day one. That means both Foles and Vick will be academically pushed from day one to keep up with Dixon. This is the perfect move to get the best quarterback competition out of Vick and Foles.

That being said I doubt Dixon ever has a shot higher then #2 if Vick is cut preseason and he won't make the roster if they keep Vick.

Great job by the Eagles getting this done.


I agree its a great signing... but why wouldn't he make the roster if the keep Vick? Who would be #3?
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I'm cool with Dixon. Starting experience, mind of Chip. It's not like he's starting like what Spurrier did with Danny W.
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ArodFanboy wrote:
ninjapirate wrote:
bears2308 wrote:
What does the Eagles fan base think of Foles? With the way he played I'd assume he'd warrant a 3rd round pick. I just don't see him fitting in with Chip's offense and Dixon looked pretty good with the Steelers in his short stint as starter. Trading Foles to draft some help in the secondary, o-line, or linebacker spot seems ideal, IMO.


Foles hopefully ends up the starter so we don't run a stupid zone read run first offense.


I don't think you absolutely have to run a zone read if Vick is starting. If anything, Kelly should focus on getting the ball out quickly for Vick, at least at first. Let him restore some of his past confidence before taking off with his legs much. Having him run around too much is the quickest way to bury him imo.


That's what Reid tried, doesn't work. He's too short and indecisive. We have to let Vick be Vick, and if he gets hurt that is why we have Dixon. We should just trade Foles to help our oline or defense, then sign a guy like Garrard, Wallace or TJack.
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JDLefebvre wrote:
Boltstrikes wrote:
This is an awesome signing. You get a 3rd string quarterback that will know the terminology of the offense from day one. That means both Foles and Vick will be academically pushed from day one to keep up with Dixon. This is the perfect move to get the best quarterback competition out of Vick and Foles.

That being said I doubt Dixon ever has a shot higher then #2 if Vick is cut preseason and he won't make the roster if they keep Vick.

Great job by the Eagles getting this done.


I agree its a great signing... but why wouldn't he make the roster if the keep Vick? Who would be #3?


I was under the impression most teams don't carry a #3 on the Roster unless it's a raw developmental guy. I know San Diego rarely carries 3 and thought it was similar league wide.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good signing. Can't say I was impressed with Dixon in Pittsburgh when he had to play when Roethlisberger went down (I am a Steelers and Bills fan) but if he knows Kelly and his offense he has an advantage. I will admit it was hard for Dixon to really show much because he was never getting by Roethlisberger for the starting job there, obviously.

I have to think the Eagles start shopping Foles now and according to rumors, the Chiefs and Andy Reid are interested in acquiring him. I still think Vick's the starter going into the season and I think Dixon can be a decent backup with a rookie as third string. I expect Edwards will be released in the coming weeks and the Eagles role with three QBs on the 53-man roster. However, maybe by getting Dixon they will feel the need to pass on drafting a QB in a weak class and give Foles another year as backup and Dixon as the #3? That could be a scenario too.
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Boltstrikes wrote:


I was under the impression most teams don't carry a #3 on the Roster unless it's a raw developmental guy. I know San Diego rarely carries 3 and thought it was similar league wide.


The number of teams still carrying 3rd QBs is still in the majority, I believe. I base that on my look at the depth charts for this past season.
Just looking at your division (AFC West), for example, the Chargers only kept 2 QBs (surprised me, I thought they might have kept Lee around after preseason).

The Raiders, Chiefs, and Broncos, however, all carried 3 QBs this season. The Chargers were the lone team in their division not to do so.

In the Eagles' NFC East, both the Giants and the Cowboys did the 2 QB thing, but the Eagles and Redskins each kept 3 QBs.


The 2 QB move is fairly recent and has grown, but it isn't the norm just yet. At least a slight majority of teams are still keeping 3 guys.
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JLaw45 wrote:
Boltstrikes wrote:


I was under the impression most teams don't carry a #3 on the Roster unless it's a raw developmental guy. I know San Diego rarely carries 3 and thought it was similar league wide.


The number of teams still carrying 3rd QBs is still in the majority, I believe. I base that on my look at the depth charts for this past season.
Just looking at your division (AFC West), for example, the Chargers only kept 2 QBs (surprised me, I thought they might have kept Lee around after preseason).

The Raiders, Chiefs, and Broncos, however, all carried 3 QBs this season. The Chargers were the lone team in their division not to do so.

In the Eagles' NFC East, both the Giants and the Cowboys did the 2 QB thing, but the Eagles and Redskins each kept 3 QBs.


The 2 QB move is fairly recent and has grown, but it isn't the norm just yet. At least a slight majority of teams are still keeping 3 guys.


The majority of teams that only carry two QB are those who are lucky enough to have a proven QB (consecutive game streak) who usually plays all 16+. Both Mannings, Rivers, Brees, Romo, Rodgers (not sure) type QB's. The rest almost always carry three. I can't even fathom how nice it must be for the Giants to have a QB regardless of how well he plays show up every single game of his career. Having that kind of consistency is immeasurable IMO. Hell the Eagles have had 6 different QB starts for them over the last 4 seasons.
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