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Patriots CB Dennard will serve 30 days in jail for assault
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB was already a huge need for us before this charge. We only have McCourty, Dennard, Malcolm Williams, and Dowling under contract for next season. Arrington sucks and needs to go. I expect us to make a greater push to keep Talib around as well as make a big time push to land a Woodson in FA.

As far as the draft, I think this is a great year to grab a CB. Lots of physical, playmakers that would be good fits in New England. Just scares me with our past history of drafting CB's.
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Class IIIA Felony with a maximum sentence of possibly 5 years in prison and/or $10,000 fine. Minimum of nothing. He's got no record, almost guarantee it's going to be probation. It did involve a (uniformed) police officer, who gave him orders that he ignored, so it's possible a judge could give him some time (because they tend to take things like assault on officers, resisting, and false reporting quite seriously), but even so I doubt it's enough time to legitimately interfere with his career. The Pats and the NFL already knew of the incident. The Pats aren't going to do anything and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the NFL also didn't do anything about it. If something happens with him again, though, the NFL will have no qualms coming down harder on him.
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How is assaulting a cop not a more serious crime?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaguarCrazy2832 wrote:
How is assaulting a cop not a more serious crime?


Thats not football Laughing You guys need to be more artistic, talk about how it relates to football then throw that little nugget in at the end, you are more likely to get away with it.

I also don't think he will get much out of it and will be ready for the season opener. I work with police officers and they have told me the 1st time you strike a police officer it is a misdemeanor, the second time a felony. That is the case in WV anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lass IIIA Felony with a maximum sentence of possibly 5 years in prison and/or $10,000 fine. Minimum of nothing. He's got no record, almost guarantee it's going to be probation. It did involve a (uniformed) police officer, who gave him orders that he ignored, so it's possible a judge could give him some time (because they tend to take things like assault on officers, resisting, and false reporting quite seriously), but even so I doubt it's enough time to legitimately interfere with his career. The Pats and the NFL already knew of the incident. The Pats aren't going to do anything and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the NFL also didn't do anything about it. If something happens with him again, though, the NFL will have no qualms coming down harder on him.


The cop was in plain clothes, not in uniform.

Anyway, as long as he can suit up and perform by next January, we're good. Its not like the regular season actually matters.
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lass IIIA Felony with a maximum sentence of possibly 5 years in prison and/or $10,000 fine. Minimum of nothing. He's got no record, almost guarantee it's going to be probation. It did involve a (uniformed) police officer, who gave him orders that he ignored, so it's possible a judge could give him some time (because they tend to take things like assault on officers, resisting, and false reporting quite seriously), but even so I doubt it's enough time to legitimately interfere with his career. The Pats and the NFL already knew of the incident. The Pats aren't going to do anything and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the NFL also didn't do anything about it. If something happens with him again, though, the NFL will have no qualms coming down harder on him.
The cop was in plain clothes, not in uniform.

Anyway, as long as he can suit up and perform by next January, we're good. Its not like the regular season actually matters.
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I turned around and I saw it was a police officer. He said, Youre under arrest. I said, No Im going to go home. He kept trying to grab my arm, I kept pulling it away.

He said he identified him as an officer before anything else happened. And even if the guy was in plain clothes, he had already identified himself and instructed him to leave (along with a few other officers at the same time), after which he started getting into it with somebody else.

Regardless, as shortsighted and short-tempered as it was, I still don't think he's getting a suspension. Could be wrong, though.
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Regardless, as shortsighted and short-tempered as it was, I still don't think he's getting a suspension. Could be wrong, though.


The incident was pre-draft. There's no previous precedent to my knowledge to any suspensions with those conditions.
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Grachuus wrote:
fretgod99 wrote:


Regardless, as shortsighted and short-tempered as it was, I still don't think he's getting a suspension. Could be wrong, though.


The incident was pre-draft. There's no previous precedent to my knowledge to any suspensions with those conditions.


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Goodell suspension is a total other ball game. Since Fonz was in college, hopefully he is in the clear.


Actually he wasn't in collage at the time and he wasn't in the NFL either. It's the same situation that Jets Kenrick Ellis had and he wasn't suspended.

Raiders Terrelle Pryor was an NCAA player at the time of his issue and indeed was suspended.

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Billy Spikes wrote:
NextBigThing wrote:
Goodell suspension is a total other ball game. Since Fonz was in college, hopefully he is in the clear.


Actually he wasn't in college at the time and he wasn't in the NFL either. It's the same situation that Jets Kenrick Ellis had and he wasn't suspended.

Raiders Terrelle Pryor was an NCAA player at the time of his issue and indeed was suspended.

Ellis was in college at the time of his arrest. He was arrested approximately a year before he was drafted.
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green24 wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
NextBigThing wrote:
Goodell suspension is a total other ball game. Since Fonz was in college, hopefully he is in the clear.


Actually he wasn't in college at the time and he wasn't in the NFL either. It's the same situation that Jets Kenrick Ellis had and he wasn't suspended.

Raiders Terrelle Pryor was an NCAA player at the time of his issue and indeed was suspended.

Ellis was in college at the time of his arrest. He was arrested approximately a year before he was drafted.


http://twitter.com/GregABedard/statuses/304302079466409984

http://twitter.com/GregABedard/statuses/304302620556787712
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see the Pats releasing him and depending on priors hr may get minimal penalty
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Billy Spikes wrote:
green24 wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
NextBigThing wrote:
Goodell suspension is a total other ball game. Since Fonz was in college, hopefully he is in the clear.


Actually he wasn't in college at the time and he wasn't in the NFL either. It's the same situation that Jets Kenrick Ellis had and he wasn't suspended.

Raiders Terrelle Pryor was an NCAA player at the time of his issue and indeed was suspended.

Ellis was in college at the time of his arrest. He was arrested approximately a year before he was drafted.


http://twitter.com/GregABedard/statuses/304302079466409984

http://twitter.com/GregABedard/statuses/304302620556787712


Not being an NCAA player doesn't mean he wasn't in college. Technically, Dennard was still in college - the crime was committed April 21st but Nebraska's graduation wasn't until May. He just wasn't on the football team (as the season had ended).

I assume - and I could be wrong - he was enrolled in spring semester classes and thus would have been an active college student.

Regarding Ellis, I'm not sure what Bedard is saying because Ellis was definitely at Hampton in April 2010 when he was arrested. He was suspended by the school/team for opening day 2010 because of the incident.
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fretgod99 wrote:
Regardless, as shortsighted and short-tempered as it was, I still don't think he's getting a suspension. Could be wrong, though.
The incident was pre-draft. There's no previous precedent to my knowledge to any suspensions with those conditions.
That's largely why I don't expect anything to happen.
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I have no idea of what to think of Dennard personally. I've heard some good things about him (I lived just an hour away from Lincoln during his career), but I've heard some bad things; this is the only thing set in stone. Ugh, sometimes. . .


However, I do know he is a dang good football player. I laughed when Mccourty and so many other posters on here gave the Patriots a failing grade for taking him in the 7th round. It was like, oookay.

He wasn't perfect this past year, but for a 7th rounder he was money on the fied (which should've been obvious enough before the draft, guy's a baller).

I don't know how this will play out, and therefore how it will affect his career, but if he can stay on the field, he's going to be a very nice player for NE.
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All the penalty and stuff aside, how dumb does this make him look. I mean he goes and gets into trouble 5 days before the draft and screws everything he has worked hard for... not very smart. I sometimes just sit here thinking what is wrong with some of these kids. No common sense at all.
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