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Billy Spikes

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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:44 pm Post subject:

eddie mac wrote:

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eddie mac wrote:

Tell me again why Brady gave back money to the Pats???

So they could sign a younger more explosive WR Danny Amendola for longer than 2 seasons.

Did he know that. Wink

I'm sure he knew he is helping the team one way or another.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:52 pm Post subject:

The best WR trio in the game. The Broncos have been busy in FA so far and are primed once again to make a serious run at the Super Bowl.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:54 pm Post subject:

Billy Spikes wrote:

SilverNBlackFan wrote:

Billy Spikes wrote:

eddie mac wrote:

Tell me again why Brady gave back money to the Pats???

So they could sign a younger more explosive WR Danny Amendola for longer than 2 seasons.

How has amendola proven to be more explosive than Welker? Dude has like an 8.8 ypc average.

Eye test? he is a bit more fast than Welker if you watched both play.

He's a better athlete for sure. Im just saying, he's not been very explosive with the ball in his hands thus far in his career. Tom Brady throwing to him will certainly help though..
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Billy Spikes

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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:40 pm Post subject:

***Update***

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Interesting news: Amendola signed with the Patriots on Tuesday. NE did not react to Denver, they made choice when Welker went to market

http://twitter.com/tomecurran/statuses/312255995399249920

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With Amendola ready to sign and Welker seeking 8 to 9 million and making visits, Pats moved on Amendola rather than drag feet and lose out.

http://twitter.com/tomecurran/statuses/312256666156556288
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:01 pm Post subject:

Pats#1 wrote:

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Sorry but this Welker deal and the way it went down reminds me of when the Eagles screwed the pooch and low balled Brian Dawkins. If anything the contract they gave Amendola less then two hrs after Welker signed with Denver, supports that. People assuming Amendola will just plug and play, have the same chemistry and similar production with Brady is assinine. Especially given the fact the man can not stay healthy. Pretty sure when Brady intentionally restructured his contract to open up money it was "not" to low ball his safety valve.

Welker had a very good year his first season in New England when he "didn't have chemistry" with Brady....why should anybody be so sure that they can't do the same thing with Amendola?

The Pats offense is VERY good at getting the slot receiver open. I'm not saying Amendola will do exactly what Welker has done, but Amendola is more athletic and has better hands than Welker, if he can stay healthy, he and the Pats offense will be just fine.

You highlighted the wrong section as to why he won't IMO. Here you go.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:09 pm Post subject:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

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I'm reading that the Pats were given a chance to match the offer, and didn't... Don't understand that at all. First of all only $6M/year is pretty great for one of the most productive receivers of the past 5 years, and secondly they went and signed an inferior receiver for about the same amount... I just don't get this.

At this point, Amendola is the better option of the two going forward. Welker's production has stemmed from being able to stay on the field, and DA has struggled to compare 'statistically' because of injuries. Whether or not you want to fault him for that is up to you, since injuries are a touchy subject.

Welker has averaged 6.9 catches, 80 yards and .47 TDs per game in the last 3 years

Amendola has averaged 5.5 catches, 50 yards and .21 TDs per game in the last 3 years

Welker far outproduces him on a per game basis thus nullifying the "he only has better stats because he plays more" argument. You could definitely make the argument that Amendola is the better option going forward but Welker has clearly out produced him.

There's this guy called Tom Brady...
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject:

Cutler06 wrote:

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schulman116 wrote:

JBURGE25 wrote:

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Patriots are idiots for getting rid of their biggest offensive weapon. I full expect them to draft Tavon Austin now. That is the only way they will make up for this loss.

Danny Amendola is a cheaper alternative if they can get him.

Gronk/Hernandez are scrubs then? I would say Gronk is a bigger weapon.

But let's just assume that we all know more than Belichick Laughing

Pats just signed Amendola to a 5yr 31mil deal.
(Welker 2yr 12mil w/DEN)

Basically they low balled Welker....so he felt betrayed & signed an average deal to be on a contender with Peyton.

then... NE replaces him with a less talented version of Wes for more money than he took to go to denver. terrrrible.

I guess you didn't hear about Welker going back to the Pats with his DEN offer and asking them to match it so he would stay and they told him "no thanks"?

Basically that says the Pats really didn't want Welker and were too chicken to just say so for fear of backlash from their fans....big streak of yellow down BB's back IMO

Except they did say so....try again.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:12 pm Post subject:

Pats#1 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

patsfan25 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

There's this guy called Tom Brady...

Unless Tom also has the supernatural ability to heal the perpetually wounded, the point is likely to be moot.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:14 pm Post subject:

Nabbs4u wrote:

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Nabbs4u wrote:

You highlighted the wrong section as to why he won't IMO. Here you go.

I addressed that part too...Here you go.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:21 pm Post subject:

sayheykid wrote:

Pats#1 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

patsfan25 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

There's this guy called Tom Brady...

Unless Tom also has the supernatural ability to heal the perpetually wounded, the point is likely to be moot.

You must know something I don't....is DA 110% surely going to get hurt?
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject:

An article on Grantland made an interesting point I hadn't really thought of. I forgot Welker tore up his knee at the end of the 2009 season. He really shouldn't get extra credit because he was "lucky" enough to get an injury in the last game that would have ended his season at any earlier point. The difference between that and Amendola missing basically almost all of 2011 is just dumb luck, and dumb luck is a bad thing to bet on.

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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:42 pm Post subject:

Pats#1 wrote:

sayheykid wrote:

Pats#1 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

patsfan25 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

There's this guy called Tom Brady...

Unless Tom also has the supernatural ability to heal the perpetually wounded, the point is likely to be moot.

You must know something I don't....is DA 110% surely going to get hurt?

No but he's shown he's been consistently injured. if he stays healthy then it's an obvious plus for NE.
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:02 am Post subject:

bigbadbuff23835 wrote:

Pats#1 wrote:

sayheykid wrote:

Pats#1 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

patsfan25 wrote:

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:

There's this guy called Tom Brady...

Unless Tom also has the supernatural ability to heal the perpetually wounded, the point is likely to be moot.

You must know something I don't....is DA 110% surely going to get hurt?

No but he's shown he's been consistently injured. if he stays healthy then it's an obvious plus for NE.

His injuries are being way overblown IMO. His injuries were freak accidents....like Gronk's forearm and Welker's ACL.

I can't see the future...I can't just say that IF Amendola stays healthy, he will extremely successful paired up with TB.
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:00 pm Post subject:

***Update***

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Danny Amendola's five-year #Patriots contract is worth $27.7 million not the originally reported, agent-inflated, $31 million.

http://twitter.com/BIG3Sports/statuses/312622463613800448
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:01 pm Post subject:

Billy Spikes wrote:

***Update***

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Danny Amendola's five-year #Patriots contract is worth $27.7 million not the originally reported, agent-inflated, $31 million.

http://twitter.com/BIG3Sports/statuses/312622463613800448

That makes it a little more understandable why they turned down Welker for $6M/year I guess

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