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| oakdb36 wrote: | | The Raiders should sign him and cut Palmer. |
Aren't we supposed to be going into a vertical offense? Don't get me wrong, he's better than Pryor but I'm not sure it would be the best fit. I know you're talking from a financial standpoint though.
I think Kolb will get a lot of interest from the Jets. Probably better than anyone they have atm.
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shawn
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He was the only QB we had last year worthy of a Job, well maybe Hoyer as well... We will see about that one. But man, Kolb is fragile. In his two years here he was only healthy for like 12-13 games. And he was a dreadfully slow healer. An injury that was suppose to keep him out 4-6 weeks kept him out 12+ weeks...and who knows maybe he is still not fully recovered.
Wish him well, but he is not meant to be a starting QB in the NFL.
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| Silver&Black88 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | The Raiders should sign him and cut Palmer. |
Aren't we supposed to be going into a vertical offense? Don't get me wrong, he's better than Pryor but I'm not sure it would be the best fit. I know you're talking from a financial standpoint though.
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http://www.tfdssports.com/2013-articles/january/by-the-numbers-oc-greg-olson-s-playcalling-tendencies.html
| Quote: | The passes he called weren’t the long bombs that Al Davis would have loved, either. Over 86% of the passes thrown were 10 yards or less. That means that only about 14 of every 100 passes thrown were thrown to a spot 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. Even fewer were what many would term a “deep” pass (20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage).
The Bucs lived and died with a plethora of short passes – screens, slants, out routes – in which Josh Freeman would get the ball to his wide receivers, tight end, running back or fullback 3-8 yards downfield and placing it where the receivers could get down the field.
The Bucs did get a fair number of 10+ yard plays out of the short passes but fans looking for Olson to bring a Hue-Jackson-like, explosive, downfield passing game will likely come away disappointed. |
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Kolbatron on the market. Most sought after QB now 
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GMENNATION
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I just don't see the Jets being able to afford him... I think people forget how bad of a cap situation the Jets are in. Yes, they are under the cap right now but they have a TON of holes. Both starting safeties signed elsewhere, they need a few starting LBs, 2 starting guards, possibly a starting RT, possibly a starting RB (unless they are handing the reigns to Powell, and even then they will need a decent backup), and they'd love to bring in atleast one new receiver... That's a ton of holes with not that much cap space. I anticipate he ends up with the Bills on a 1-2 year deal worth around 2-3 mil annually. More than he's worth but he plays the most important position on the field and teams happen to need QBs this offseason
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| jrry32 wrote: | | Geno Smith to the Cards in a trade-up? |
If it means passing up on Eric Fisher, by all means I am for it.  |
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Silver&Black88
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| oakdb36 wrote: | | Silver&Black88 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | The Raiders should sign him and cut Palmer. |
Aren't we supposed to be going into a vertical offense? Don't get me wrong, he's better than Pryor but I'm not sure it would be the best fit. I know you're talking from a financial standpoint though.
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http://www.tfdssports.com/2013-articles/january/by-the-numbers-oc-greg-olson-s-playcalling-tendencies.html
| Quote: | The passes he called weren’t the long bombs that Al Davis would have loved, either. Over 86% of the passes thrown were 10 yards or less. That means that only about 14 of every 100 passes thrown were thrown to a spot 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. Even fewer were what many would term a “deep” pass (20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage).
The Bucs lived and died with a plethora of short passes – screens, slants, out routes – in which Josh Freeman would get the ball to his wide receivers, tight end, running back or fullback 3-8 yards downfield and placing it where the receivers could get down the field.
The Bucs did get a fair number of 10+ yard plays out of the short passes but fans looking for Olson to bring a Hue-Jackson-like, explosive, downfield passing game will likely come away disappointed. |
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Well that's all fine and dandy but that doesn't mean he's going to be exactly the same as back then. I guess neither of us has a real way of knowing what Olsen will be like though so its a moot point.
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oakdb36
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| Silver&Black88 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | Silver&Black88 wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | | The Raiders should sign him and cut Palmer. |
Aren't we supposed to be going into a vertical offense? Don't get me wrong, he's better than Pryor but I'm not sure it would be the best fit. I know you're talking from a financial standpoint though.
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http://www.tfdssports.com/2013-articles/january/by-the-numbers-oc-greg-olson-s-playcalling-tendencies.html
| Quote: | The passes he called weren’t the long bombs that Al Davis would have loved, either. Over 86% of the passes thrown were 10 yards or less. That means that only about 14 of every 100 passes thrown were thrown to a spot 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. Even fewer were what many would term a “deep” pass (20 yards beyond the line of scrimmage).
The Bucs lived and died with a plethora of short passes – screens, slants, out routes – in which Josh Freeman would get the ball to his wide receivers, tight end, running back or fullback 3-8 yards downfield and placing it where the receivers could get down the field.
The Bucs did get a fair number of 10+ yard plays out of the short passes but fans looking for Olson to bring a Hue-Jackson-like, explosive, downfield passing game will likely come away disappointed. |
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Well that's all fine and dandy but that doesn't mean he's going to be exactly the same as back then. I guess neither of us has a real way of knowing what Olsen will be like though so its a moot point. |
It just means the vertical offense is far from a given.
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They gotta draft a QB
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| jrry32 wrote: | | Geno Smith to the Cards in a trade-up? |
If we dont draft Geno, id love to trade down with Arizona and get a pass rusher
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| atown703 wrote: | | They gotta draft a QB |
At some stage they will, but Drew Stanton will start for AZ week one.
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| Art_Vandalay wrote: | | With the Cards and Bills undoubtedly needing a QB and Jags and Raiders possibly in the hunt for one, the Chiefs shouldn't have any trouble trading down if they wanted to. |
I've said this before, but I doubt either team is desperate enough to jump that far up. I think the highest possible trade up is with the Jags at #2, but I fully expect both teams to wait and see what the Raiders do and then look at their options with picks 4-6 if they plan to trade up.
I would still wager that the Lions and Browns are the two most likely teams to make a trade that nets their partner Geno.
The Chiefs best bet for trading down is with a team with their heart set on a non-QB. |
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DRC29 INT
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| RandyMossIsBoss wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | Geno Smith to the Cards in a trade-up? |
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Bidding war between the Bills and Cards to get the Eagles pick? Yes please. |
Dream. It's a guarantee the Cards won't trade up. Apparently it's more likely they draft O-line/pass rush. |
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| DRC29 INT wrote: | | RandyMossIsBoss wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | Geno Smith to the Cards in a trade-up? |
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Bidding war between the Bills and Cards to get the Eagles pick? Yes please. |
Dream. It's a guarantee the Cards won't trade up. Apparently it's more likely they draft O-line/pass rush. |
I see OT in round one and a QB in round two.
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I see OT in round one and a QB in round two. |
Definitely possible/likely. |
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