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RainbowCarebear
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| Dr. Philly wrote: | | Looks like he took a paycut to come home. |
Wanna root for Pelicans
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NS922
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Dr. Philly wrote: | | Looks like he took a paycut to come home. |
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Harper41
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| THRILLHO wrote: | | Spartica4Real wrote: |
If you think Greer will be better this year than P-Rob, then you are an idiot. |
Yeah, I'm the idiot for thinking that an above average CB in Greer is better than the guy that was statistically the worst in the NFL last season. |
Patrick Robinson is the definition of a man to man CB. Putting him in a zone was bound to end poorly. He certainly has the talent to be better than Greer, and its not crazy to say he's better than him. He gave up tons of yards but he also made big plays, something Greer certainly doesn't offer.
Regardless, Lewis and Robinson should form a pretty good CB duo and Greer and White will offer some nice depth. We might actually have a competent defense next year.
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Harper41
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| Spartica4Real wrote: | | anteros77 wrote: | | I think I must be an idiot too. Greer is in the conversation for being a top 10 CB in this league when he's healthy and not being forced into Spags terrible zone D. P-Rob has potential, but that's all it is right now. |
 Greer? Top 10? |
Before last certain he was definitely in the conversation...Guy was very good for New Orleans before last year. I mean, I agree that Patrick Robinson will likely be better next year, and was better last year IMO but before that Greer was a stud.
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Spartica4Real
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Harper41 wrote: | | THRILLHO wrote: | | Spartica4Real wrote: |
If you think Greer will be better this year than P-Rob, then you are an idiot. |
Yeah, I'm the idiot for thinking that an above average CB in Greer is better than the guy that was statistically the worst in the NFL last season. |
Patrick Robinson is the definition of a man to man CB. Putting him in a zone was bound to end poorly. He certainly has the talent to be better than Greer, and its not crazy to say he's better than him. He gave up tons of yards but he also made big plays, something Greer certainly doesn't offer.
Regardless, Lewis and Robinson should form a pretty good CB duo and Greer and White will offer some nice depth. We might actually have a competent defense next year. |
Thank you for having some sense, Harp.
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Rygar
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| kethnaab wrote: | I'm really wondering if the Steelers' front office has gone senile
ridiculous. |
This might be a bit of "tin foil" speculation, but it's worth remembering that Keenan Lewis is Mike Wallace's best friend. If there was discord in the locker room last season, then maybe Lewis was responsible to some degree. We'll never know, but it does make you wonder, especially since the Steelers had more than enough room under the salary cap to give him a nice deal, and they were never mentioned in the bidding war for him.
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Spartica4Real
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| Rygar wrote: | | kethnaab wrote: | I'm really wondering if the Steelers' front office has gone senile
ridiculous. |
This might be a bit of "tin foil" speculation, but it's worth remembering that Keenan Lewis is Mike Wallace's best friend. If there was discord in the locker room last season, then maybe Lewis was responsible to some degree. We'll never know, but it does make you wonder, especially since the Steelers had more than enough room under the salary cap to give him a nice deal, and they were never mentioned in the bidding war for him. |
Yup. They said it was the Browns, Colts, Saints, & Lions.
We had the lowest deal. He just took the hometown discount.
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| vikingsnumber1 wrote: | | Even if Favre retires, I think the Vikings will be back in the NFC title game within the next few years. And you can quote me on that. |
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BlaqOptic
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| THRILLHO wrote: | | BlaqOptic wrote: | | I'm not going to be a sour grapes Steelers fan...I hope he gets burned left and right for leaving my team. |
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Sour Grapes would be pretending all the good things he did for us never happened. It also would have been not acknowledging that it was cool of him to take a hometown discount... Yet you point out the sole negative because I do in fact have a right as a fan to feel scorned he left... Only in Nawlins..
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| sayheykid wrote: | | Eksynyt wrote: | | Some people on here brag about the Seahawks having a defense...where is it? |
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Harper41
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| BlaqOptic wrote: | | THRILLHO wrote: | | BlaqOptic wrote: | | I'm not going to be a sour grapes Steelers fan...I hope he gets burned left and right for leaving my team. |
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Sour Grapes would be pretending all the good things he did for us never happened. It also would have been not acknowledging that it was cool of him to take a hometown discount... Yet you point out the sole negative because I do in fact have a right as a fan to feel scorned he left... Only in Nawlins.. |
And yet, you always deny dis-liking the Saints
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BlaqOptic
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| Harper41 wrote: | | BlaqOptic wrote: | | THRILLHO wrote: | | BlaqOptic wrote: | | I'm not going to be a sour grapes Steelers fan...I hope he gets burned left and right for leaving my team. |
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Sour Grapes would be pretending all the good things he did for us never happened. It also would have been not acknowledging that it was cool of him to take a hometown discount... Yet you point out the sole negative because I do in fact have a right as a fan to feel scorned he left... Only in Nawlins.. |
And yet, you always deny dis-liking the Saints |
The only time I disliked you guys was during the 2009 Super Bowl run...
I just wanted to be able to say "Nawlins" and typing it meant I had to read it in my head/out loud.
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| sayheykid wrote: | | Eksynyt wrote: | | Some people on here brag about the Seahawks having a defense...where is it? |
It's having a hard time concentrating. |
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JaguarCrazy2832
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Is he really worth 5M a year?
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green24
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Is he really worth 5M a year? |
I would say probably close to 6-7M.
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stillersenat
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| green24 wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Is he really worth 5M a year? |
I would say probably close to 6-7M. |
Based on what? One year?
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| green24 wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Is he really worth 5M a year? |
I would say probably close to 6-7M. |
Yes, because one good...not great....season in a contract year after 3 mediocre ones makes him worth being paid as a top 10 corner.
As I said earlier, its a good signing, and he couldve likely gotten more, but he got about as much as he deserves at this point.
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Still waiting for your laugh.... |
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kethnaab
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | green24 wrote: | | JaguarCrazy2832 wrote: | | Is he really worth 5M a year? |
I would say probably close to 6-7M. |
Yes, because one good...not great....season in a contract year after 3 mediocre ones makes him worth being paid as a top 10 corner.
As I said earlier, its a good signing, and he couldve likely gotten more, but he got about as much as he deserves at this point. |
$5m is a solid deal for him. $7m was what I expected, since I see him as a younger Ike Taylor
also, $8m+/season is top 10 for CBs.
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