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BBando


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted him back as a rotational DT. You guys got a good player. One thing to watch though. He was bad before Schiano got here.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucsfan333 wrote:
floppyflaps wrote:
He's a good player. Tampa fans are idiots though, they judge a NT based on how many sacks they have.


eggybucsfan31 wrote:
He's a solid addition. One of the big reasons we were #1 against the rush last year.

bucsfan333 wrote:
He's not a pass rusher by any means but he holds well at the point of attack. He was, like eggy said, a HUGE reason we did so well against the run last year.

DaRealdeal wrote:
He is great at what he does, occupying blockers. He's not going to give you anything else, but he will be great at that.

What he does will rarely show up in the stat sheet.

...good call. Rolling Eyes


because fans on footballsfuture represent the opinion of the whole fanbase?

look on actual buccaneers forums if you want to see what people think of Roy Miller
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

floppyflaps wrote:
bucsfan333 wrote:
floppyflaps wrote:
He's a good player. Tampa fans are idiots though, they judge a NT based on how many sacks they have.


eggybucsfan31 wrote:
He's a solid addition. One of the big reasons we were #1 against the rush last year.

bucsfan333 wrote:
He's not a pass rusher by any means but he holds well at the point of attack. He was, like eggy said, a HUGE reason we did so well against the run last year.

DaRealdeal wrote:
He is great at what he does, occupying blockers. He's not going to give you anything else, but he will be great at that.

What he does will rarely show up in the stat sheet.

...good call. Rolling Eyes


because fans on footballsfuture represent the opinion of the whole fanbase?

look on actual buccaneers forums if you want to see what people think of Roy Miller


Either way, don't talk like that about fanbases on footballsfuture. This isn't the place for that.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

floppyflaps wrote:
bucsfan333 wrote:
floppyflaps wrote:
He's a good player. Tampa fans are idiots though, they judge a NT based on how many sacks they have.


eggybucsfan31 wrote:
He's a solid addition. One of the big reasons we were #1 against the rush last year.

bucsfan333 wrote:
He's not a pass rusher by any means but he holds well at the point of attack. He was, like eggy said, a HUGE reason we did so well against the run last year.

DaRealdeal wrote:
He is great at what he does, occupying blockers. He's not going to give you anything else, but he will be great at that.

What he does will rarely show up in the stat sheet.

...good call. Rolling Eyes


because fans on footballsfuture represent the opinion of the whole fanbase?

look on actual buccaneers forums if you want to see what people think of Roy Miller

so....bucs fans on FF don't represent the opinion of the whole fanbase, bucs fans on another forum do. seems logical enough.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

floppyflaps wrote:
He's a good player. Tampa fans are idiots though, they judge a NT based on how many sacks they have.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know a lot about him to be honest but sounds like he's a good run stuffer. Should be a perfect fit for our defensive scheme.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snkhd09 wrote:
floppyflaps wrote:
bucsfan333 wrote:
floppyflaps wrote:
He's a good player. Tampa fans are idiots though, they judge a NT based on how many sacks they have.


eggybucsfan31 wrote:
He's a solid addition. One of the big reasons we were #1 against the rush last year.

bucsfan333 wrote:
He's not a pass rusher by any means but he holds well at the point of attack. He was, like eggy said, a HUGE reason we did so well against the run last year.

DaRealdeal wrote:
He is great at what he does, occupying blockers. He's not going to give you anything else, but he will be great at that.

What he does will rarely show up in the stat sheet.

...good call. Rolling Eyes


because fans on footballsfuture represent the opinion of the whole fanbase?

look on actual buccaneers forums if you want to see what people think of Roy Miller

so....bucs fans on FF don't represent the opinion of the whole fanbase, bucs fans on another forum do. seems logical enough.


people on footballsfuture are a small subsection of fans who have a deeper interest in football compared to the average fan

other forums are more representative of the average fan who don't have the same level of football knowledge

the average tampa fan thinks that Mike Alstott should be a hall of famer, and that Roy Miller sucks because he doesn't have 10 sacks, the average footballsfuture buc fan isn't that ignorant
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miller is a good starting NT. He occupies blockers, but is not good in pass rush situations. We struggled figuring out what to do with him for 3 years, but looked good last year!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really good guy, sad to see him go... wish him the best. He was a bet on and off before Schiano came, but really excelled stuffing the run this year. Good rotational DT and great guy to have in the locker room.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good pick for the Jags.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loving the broken-hearted comments, glad to hear some positive stuff about him
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucstopshere wrote:
Miller is a good starting NT. He occupies blockers, but is not good in pass rush situations. We struggled figuring out what to do with him for 3 years, but looked good last year!


We have alualu and mosley for 3rd downs
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like everyone else has said, very underrated run stopper. What makes this even more difficult for us Bucs fans is that he is the 3rd player out of our front 7 to leave us in a matter of weeks. So there goes our #1 run game and we haven't done anything in our horrible secondary except get another safety. Really hope they have a plan.....

Oh and if you have a speedy OLB(dont know anything about your LBs), get ready for them to have a great season.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

96BucsBallin wrote:
Like everyone else has said, very underrated run stopper. What makes this even more difficult for us Bucs fans is that he is the 3rd player out of our front 7 to leave us in a matter of weeks. So there goes our #1 run game and we haven't done anything in our horrible secondary except get another safety. Really hope they have a plan.....

Oh and if you have a speedy OLB(dont know anything about your LBs), get ready for them to have a great season.


2 of which went to jacksonville Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one who thinks 70% of the reason the Bucs run defense was "good" last year is because their pass defense was one of the worst I've ever seen? Why run when you can just pass the ball at will like you're playing catch in your backyard?

Miller is decent but I wouldn't expect him to be anything more than an average starter.
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