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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the second and third round picks for the Steelers. Absolutely, totally, and completely hate the first pick. Given the board falling the way it does, I don't believe that they could pass on Jarvis Jones. I also think that Chance Warmack and Lane Johnson are far higher rated players and fill greater needs than a NT. The only defensive lineman I would be happy with in the first is Latoulli.
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First of all very nice effort and presentation.

I don't like Hankins in the first especially when Jarvis Jones is still on the board. I like Minter in the second however, on your board Keenan Allen is available and I much rather go with him instead. Colbert got burned last season with rookies who had off-the-field problems so I can't see him going with Rogers. I would love Reid there.

I would be absolutely ecstatic if the the first three rounds were Jones, Allen, and Reid.
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CHIEFS: I like the choice of B Jones in 3rd round but the Chiefs will no longer use ZBS blocking. That is the reason they released Winston and not the reason(I hope)they take Jones.
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It's okay for the Falcons, but I'll chime in on another opinion.

1: Jarvis Jones, DE: Already popular in the area and elite in terms of talent. No way he falls into the second, since he's medicially cleared, and even if he falls, I just can't imagine the Falcons passing on him.

2: Desmond Trufant, CB: Another guy I don't expect to be there, but we need a corner badly, and Trufant is a TD kind of guy. Has a very good chance to be selected in the Top 20, could be our real life #30 selection.

3: Khaseem Greene, LB: Perfect fit for our defense. Another player who I don't think falls to where he does in your draft.
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You seem really confused about the Chip Kelly era eagles. Chip doesn't have personnel control. Not sure why people think that, Howie is the GM.


We are also going to be looking for tall long and athletic players.

Pugh and Shamarko are not that at all, we would never draft those guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hankins is extremely overrated, and 3rd round talent IMO.

Jarvis Jones or Chance Warmack should be the pick.

Also, Jesse Williams >>>>> Hankins at 34 NT.
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meixdaddy_10 wrote:
I like Brown for the Vikes at 1A and I know our GM wants continuity on the line but I just dont see how you can pass on G Cooper at that point...easily BPA. but i doubt he falls that far...if so i pull the trigger.
I dont think Indy would go with LB Brown but its a gamble i would be willing to take.

And there is a very slim chance we take Woods over Allen unless his knee is beyond messed up.

I like the pick of Williams in RD2 if we went LB/WR Rd 1 but the way this scenario plays out I would rather go WR Allen ..even though i highly doubt he falls this far..if gone Id go Hopkins

RD 3 is the right position and the round i think we pull the trigger on a big need in CB...Like the McFadden pick...but looking at the top of RD3 I see CB Trufant on the board still, i easily package my 3rd and 4th RD picks to move up and get him..that being said, there is no way in hell i think he falls that far as hes being talked about as a mid RD1 pick.

So going by your board my picks would be

RD1A OG Cooper
RD1B LB Brown
RD2 WR Allen
RD3 CB Trufant (with trade up)..if no trade id stick with McFadden

If the draft were to fall like this i would literally crap my pants..but again I cant see it happening


ya no way the vikes pass on keenan allen twice and selct woods if we get allen in the second round i would crap my pants
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnson, Warmack or Cooper for Dallas in R1...no question!

Kawaan Short will never last that long, but if he does, perfect fit in Kiffin's scheme...

I just can't believe JJ is that infatuated with Arkansas that he reaches that much for Davis...Bernard is the much better prospect and fits perfectly if you're set on taking RB there...I would prefer Duke Williams based on the way the draft has unfolded personally...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lane Johnson is not getting out of the top 10. And the Bengals will re-sign Andre because no one is going to pay him $9M.

Not a big fan of Ball.

The rest of the draft is solid.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's certainly different for the Bengals. If Johnson fell that far, I'd be all for it. i just don't see him lasting to #21.

Love Moore to the Bengals. Perfect fit for the interchangable LBs we seem to be assembling.

Definitely not sold on Montee Ball. Too much wear and tear for my liking. Would rather see a falling WR there (I think Allen and Hopkins were available).

Rambo fits nicely as well.

Great effort overall as well.
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Its definitely a different take on the draft. Just a couple of things I noticed; Floyd would be a horrible pick for the chiefs at one. He doesn't fit their scheme; it'd be like drafting Dorsey all over again and wasting his talent. Mingo at 2? I don't think he goes in top 10. No way that trufant goes in rd 3; hell be a first rounder if not a top 20 pick

As for my niners, feels like reach after reach. I love swearinger as a prospect, but in the first that may be a reach. I wouldn't be upset about it though. Kruger in the second? d'oh! he's a 4-5th rd prospect. Terrible pick. Vance MacDonald in the second is a bit of a reach as well. Bigger needs to fill than tight end #2 in the second. He could be had in the third, and if not, Escobar and kelce will be. I love the idea of drafting lattimore, and while I'm hoping we can snag him in the fourth, I wouldn't be upset with plucking him in the third. Especially there. Wheaton is kind of a wasted pick. He'd give us 6 we (crabtree, boldin, manningham, Jenkins, Williams). While Manningham may start on the PUP list, the other 4 will be healthy, so I would expect us to grab a wr much later in the draft; fifth or later. We couldn't stash Wheaton on the practice squad and I don't think we carry 6 wr, given our propensity to use a fullback or two tight ends. Given that this draft hasn't addressed our nt issue, or our linebacker depth issues, or cornerback, I think any of those would make more sense than Wheaton unless we simply fall in love with him.
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Swift21 wrote:
You gave the niners a few reaches.

I think some would argue that but the only one who I think is going to be considered an outright "reach" would be Joe Kruger, and he's a great fit for the Niners with a high ceiling. Not to mention Baalke has never been afraid to stick with his board, no matter how unconventional it is.
green24 wrote:
LOVE the Jordan pick. HATE the Barkley pick. Don't like the Bell pick.

I would prefer to grab Keenan Allen, DeAndre Hopkins, or Jamie Collins in the second and Markus Wheaton, Quinton Patton, or Phillip Thomas in the third.

It seems you and many Jets fans feel this way about Barkley, but I find it unlikely that the Jets are willing - with basically an entirely new coaching staff/front office aside from Rex Ryan - to stick with what they have on the roster at QB. I don't expect them to look at a first round QB, but in the second/third if Barkley is available he seems like a perfect fit for your scheme and Idzik can talk to Carroll about what he knows about Barkley as well. Any particular reason you think that WR is going to be selected in the first three rounds even with Holmes restructed and Stephen Hill (hopefully) moving into a larger role?
meixdaddy_10 wrote:
I like Brown for the Vikes at 1A and I know our GM wants continuity on the line but I just dont see how you can pass on G Cooper at that point...easily BPA. but i doubt he falls that far...if so i pull the trigger.
I dont think Indy would go with LB Brown but its a gamble i would be willing to take.

And there is a very slim chance we take Woods over Allen unless his knee is beyond messed up.

I like the pick of Williams in RD2 if we went LB/WR Rd 1 but the way this scenario plays out I would rather go WR Allen ..even though i highly doubt he falls this far..if gone Id go Hopkins

RD 3 is the right position and the round i think we pull the trigger on a big need in CB...Like the McFadden pick...but looking at the top of RD3 I see CB Trufant on the board still, i easily package my 3rd and 4th RD picks to move up and get him..that being said, there is no way in hell i think he falls that far as hes being talked about as a mid RD1 pick.

So going by your board my picks would be

RD1A OG Cooper
RD1B LB Brown
RD2 WR Allen
RD3 CB Trufant (with trade up)..if no trade id stick with McFadden

If the draft were to fall like this i would literally crap my pants..but again I cant see it happening

Cooper makes a lot of sense to me in Minnesota, but it seems like Spielman has highly valued the WR position and I find it very unlikely that the Vikings (without trading down) don't have WR as one of their top two picks. I also think Woods fits much better than Allen or Hopkins with Ponder and the Vikings scheme - better after the catch, more dynamic/dangerous in the open field and more elusive. And no serious injury concerns.
FalconFan13 wrote:
It's not to bad for the Falcons i liked the needs we pickde but theirs no way i can show you these 2 guys with the talent they have at our picks and you can say your 2 are better choices :)

1st - Jarvis Jones - Top 10 potential talent and a UGA product that would be a great pick for us and is alot better value at our biggest need.

2nd - Trufant - CB - This guy is also a 1st round CB and in the 2nd round for us would be considered a steal.

3rd - im ok with if you think the guy can play NT for us in 3-4 looks than it's fine with me.

Jones + Trufant would make almost any team drool they are both 1st round players at our 2 biggest needs. Heck their actually both even more talented than Jamar Taylor in general.

I think Taylor will be viewed as a better fit for your zone coverage based scheme than Trufant. My question with Jarvis Jones, who would be a selection I'd consider, is how has Dimitroff viewed players with serious injury concerns? I can't think of any that he's taken but I certainly don't know as much about the Falcons as you and other fans (Beeper King etc..)
49ers Finest wrote:
overall i think its a good draft.
decent amount of surprise picks like april will have.

decent draft for us. but i think kruger that early is too crazy even for balke. we wouldnt let datone fall that far. and theres also rumors we have interest in reid. i could see us taking two safetys, whitner probably wont be back after next year

I definitely though about doubling up on safeties and if I did Reid would have been the selection for you guys. Kruger may be to early but I don't think he makes it out of the second round come April - 3-4 teams will love him. And I actually question Datone Jones' fit in a 3-4 scheme, he fits better as a LDE in a 4-3, in a 3-4 I think he's a pass rush specialist five tech.
steelers8031 wrote:
Love the second and third round picks for the Steelers. Absolutely, totally, and completely hate the first pick. Given the board falling the way it does, I don't believe that they could pass on Jarvis Jones. I also think that Chance Warmack and Lane Johnson are far higher rated players and fill greater needs than a NT. The only defensive lineman I would be happy with in the first is Latoulli.

Lane Johnson was a possibility but Mike Adams and Marcus Gilbert are on the roster, each under 25 and I don't see Colbert giving up on either of them - both have high ceilings and potential to be quality starters. You think otherwise? Warmack is certainly a strong possibility as well, I considered him.
1BackInBlackFan wrote:
First of all very nice effort and presentation.

I don't like Hankins in the first especially when Jarvis Jones is still on the board. I like Minter in the second however, on your board Keenan Allen is available and I much rather go with him instead. Colbert got burned last season with rookies who had off-the-field problems so I can't see him going with Rogers. I would love Reid there.

I would be absolutely ecstatic if the the first three rounds were Jones, Allen, and Reid.

True that he got burt with Te'amu and Rainey but I haven't seen any indication that he's going to change his ways. Do you think it's likely he values character more come draft day this year? Again, with Jones - has Colbert been willing to take guys with serious injury concerns?

Flexx wrote:
CHIEFS: I like the choice of B Jones in 3rd round but the Chiefs will no longer use ZBS blocking. That is the reason they released Winston and not the reason(I hope)they take Jones.

This I was not aware of, in this case I actually think the selection of Jones though I'm not sure the Gio Bernard selection would change.
FourThreeMafia wrote:
Hankins is extremely overrated, and 3rd round talent IMO.

Jarvis Jones or Chance Warmack should be the pick.

Also, Jesse Williams >>>>> Hankins at 34 NT.

Williams is a possibility but Hankins is a very Kevin Colbert-ish pick, not to mention I think he fits well with the Steelers scheme and is very versatile. Warmack I understand, but why Jones? Have the Steelers been willing to take injury prone players in the past?
ninjapirate wrote:
You seem really confused about the Chip Kelly era eagles. Chip doesn't have personnel control. Not sure why people think that, Howie is the GM.

We are also going to be looking for tall long and athletic players.

Pugh and Shamarko are not that at all, we would never draft those guys.

Shamarko Thomas is an elite athlete, high motor player who can be used a lot of different ways (in the box, covering the slot, maybe single high though that's not his strength) and Kelly has shown to absolutely love those guys at Oregon. Pugh can kick to OG if he doesn't fit at RT, but I will agree he doesn't fit the "tall/long" criteria, thanks for the input.

I think Kelly will be getting a lot of personnel input - haven't heard anything otherwise though I may be mistaken. With that said even if he doesn't have control/heavy input I still expect Roseman to take guys who fit with the philosophy and preference of Kelly.
cav_fan2 wrote:
Johnson, Warmack or Cooper for Dallas in R1...no question!

Kawaan Short will never last that long, but if he does, perfect fit in Kiffin's scheme...

I just can't believe JJ is that infatuated with Arkansas that he reaches that much for Davis...Bernard is the much better prospect and fits perfectly if you're set on taking RB there...I would prefer Duke Williams based on the way the draft has unfolded personally...

Can't see Jerry taking an interior offensive lineman in the first round, doesn't match what he's been doing for so long. Short is a great fit, someone I strongly considered in round 2. As for the Arkansas infatuation I do think that Davis fits pretty well with the Cowboys, and while round 3 may be a bit high I don't think he makes it out of the top 100 (I'm not personally high on him, just what I anticipate teams seeing) because of those elite physical tools. Could be wrong though there as well.
Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote:
Lane Johnson is not getting out of the top 10. And the Bengals will re-sign Andre because no one is going to pay him $9M.

Not a big fan of Ball.

The rest of the draft is solid.
INbengalfan wrote:
That's certainly different for the Bengals. If Johnson fell that far, I'd be all for it. i just don't see him lasting to #21.

Love Moore to the Bengals. Perfect fit for the interchangable LBs we seem to be assembling.

Definitely not sold on Montee Ball. Too much wear and tear for my liking. Would rather see a falling WR there (I think Allen and Hopkins were available).

Rambo fits nicely as well.

Great effort overall as well.

I do think that WR is a possibility, and I do think that Andre is going to be resigned. But with that said for this exercise I'm working under the assumption he isn't resigned simply because he hasn't been. My only issue with WR - and the reason I don't think it's the selection - is that Marvin has been very vocal in his praise for Marvin Jones and Mo Sanu especially. He seems very impressed with this WR group and I think that he isn't going to address the position early in the draft, but I could be wrong here.
Forge wrote:
Its definitely a different take on the draft. Just a couple of things I noticed; Floyd would be a horrible pick for the chiefs at one. He doesn't fit their scheme; it'd be like drafting Dorsey all over again and wasting his talent. Mingo at 2? I don't think he goes in top 10. No way that trufant goes in rd 3; hell be a first rounder if not a top 20 pick

As for my niners, feels like reach after reach. I love swearinger as a prospect, but in the first that may be a reach. I wouldn't be upset about it though. Kruger in the second? #-o he's a 4-5th rd prospect. Terrible pick. Vance MacDonald in the second is a bit of a reach as well. Bigger needs to fill than tight end #2 in the second. He could be had in the third, and if not, Escobar and kelce will be. I love the idea of drafting lattimore, and while I'm hoping we can snag him in the fourth, I wouldn't be upset with plucking him in the third. Especially there. Wheaton is kind of a wasted pick. He'd give us 6 we (crabtree, boldin, manningham, Jenkins, Williams). While Manningham may start on the PUP list, the other 4 will be healthy, so I would expect us to grab a wr much later in the draft; fifth or later. We couldn't stash Wheaton on the practice squad and I don't think we carry 6 wr, given our propensity to use a fullback or two tight ends. Given that this draft hasn't addressed our nt issue, or our linebacker depth issues, or cornerback, I think any of those would make more sense than Wheaton unless we simply fall in love with him.

Disagree on Floyd not fitting the Chiefs scheme, he has the potential to be an elite five tech in the NFL and he's not the same player Glenn Dorsey was. Floyd is more technically sound, more violent hands, fewer injury concerns, far more diverse in his pass rush (wider array of moves) and far more experience with two-gap responsibilities and positional versatility. As for Trufant, I think some corners are bound to fall in a loaded class and here it happens to be Trufant and Robert Alford (Alford due to the medical question marks and age). Trufant I think will scare teams because he doesn't have great ball skills, sometimes can be too physical downfield, overaggressive on jumping routes, and is a weak defender against the run (inconsistent tackler, struggles to get off blocks)

I think if I did the Niners draft over, I would give them someone who could play NT especially with Franklin gone and the fact Baalke has valued need in his selections. Swearinger helps alleviate some of the CB depth issues because he can move to CB in nickel/dime packages, and the LB depth issues to me seems like more of a mid-late round proposition as Bowman and Willis play almost all the snaps and Brooks/Smith on the outside with a restructured Parys Harylson seems like enough depth.

McDonald seems like a typical Baalke selection, especially considering the wide array of things he can do. Don't anticipate him making it out of the second to be honest, and as I've said before Baalke trusts his board is not afraid to take "perceived reaches" (though I don't think McDonald would be one). In all those diamond and pistol formations along with all the motion and pre-snap shifting McDonald is a guy who can line up anywhere and can basically replace Delanie Walker.

As For Wheaton, I think that he fits the bill for what Baalke likes and Boldin, Manningham and Williams are free agents next year - I think that Baalke sees that and gets a WR in this draft at some point.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

other than Fragel not being worth the pick IMO, I like the draft. If OT was the pick and Menelik Watson managed to be there, I would pounce and grab him. Raw with INSANE upside.
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Very unique mock. I enjoyed it. Good Saints pick if he can play OLB.
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I do like Star at #4. Can't complain there.

Although O-line is a need, if Jarvis Jones is there at #35 (which is unlikely) I think we would seriously take him. Terron Armstead is also another option the 2nd, and I like him better than Pugh for the Eagles.

In the 3rd, I think Zach Ertz would be the pick in this scenario. Datone Jones is another option there, as well.


Oh by the way, there is no chance Des Trufant makes it to pick #65. No chance at all.
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