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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelKing728 wrote:
Gotta love the disrespect still. Cool

Feed it, baby!


What???
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do know 7 QBs in the first 2 rounds would a record right?
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckIsGOAT wrote:
You do know 7 QBs in the first 2 rounds would a record right?


THat's fine, but looking back on this past QB draft class, and the failure of current starting QB's, as well as the attrition taking it's toll on the above average to great QB's, you have to think that teams are going to look now.

Teams with QB needs in nor particular order:

Jacksonville
Cleveland
Arizona
Minnesota
Tennessee (depending on how Locker plays)
Kansas City
New England (Brady's not getting any younger)
Denver (Peyton's not getting any younger)
Dallas
St Louis (time's running out on Bradford to perform)
San Diego (Rivers same as Bradford)
New Orleans (Bress isn't getting any younger)
Houston (how much time.how many years does Schaub have left?)
Philadelphia (yet to be seen)
Oakland (jury's out on Flynn, Pryor, and Wilson)

Again, we are 12 months out from the next draft, and many questions will be answered by the time the draft rolls around next May 8-10, but arguments can be made to justify 7 QB's being selected in the first 2 rounds. Can some drop to the 3rd round? Sure. Will team needs, draft postitions, and player ratings change? Definitely.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carrolljcmc wrote:
LuckIsGOAT wrote:
You do know 7 QBs in the first 2 rounds would a record right?


Teams with QB needs in nor particular order:

Jacksonville
Cleveland
Arizona
Minnesota
Tennessee (depending on how Locker plays)
Kansas City
New England (Brady's not getting any younger)
Denver (Peyton's not getting any younger)
Dallas
St Louis (time's running out on Bradford to perform)
San Diego (Rivers same as Bradford)
New Orleans (Bress isn't getting any younger)
Houston (how much time.how many years does Schaub have left?)
Philadelphia (yet to be seen)
Oakland (jury's out on Flynn, Pryor, and Wilson)

Again, we are 12 months out from the next draft, and many questions will be answered by the time the draft rolls around next May 8-10, but arguments can be made to justify 7 QB's being selected in the first 2 rounds. Can some drop to the 3rd round? Sure. Will team needs, draft positions, and player ratings change? Definitely.


The teams I bolded, I feel would be insane to grade QB as a 3rd round or higher need.
NE has Mallett.
Denver has a couple of young QB's they have drafted that can learn for 3 more years.
Philly has Foles and Barkley both high round picks(yes, unforeseen how Chip runs everything quite yet.)
Dallas has Romo under this big contract. Any QB drafted above round 3 will cause ESPN to go completely Tebow on us and as much as Jerry love his attention, I don't think they want that type of attention on Romo.
NO you could argue the point, but still is an iffy one.


Not arguing, just stating how I see there is always a need for QB, but just because Brees ages a year doesn't mean they need to groom a kid for 4 more years before Brees decides to call it quits and run for President of the US.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm absolutely puzzled by that pick for the Bucs. Revis and Banks should solidify the CB position.

If we are picking that high out of playoff contention it's because our pass rush failed or Freeman stunk it up.

We'll say it's the first, go with Aaron Lynch out of USF who's a monster, that can play DE or DT. Then go with DeAnthony Thomas (who I would gladly select in the first round)
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carrolljcmc wrote:
LuckIsGOAT wrote:
You do know 7 QBs in the first 2 rounds would a record right?


THat's fine, but looking back on this past QB draft class, and the failure of current starting QB's, as well as the attrition taking it's toll on the above average to great QB's, you have to think that teams are going to look now.

Teams with QB needs in nor particular order:

Jacksonville
Cleveland
Arizona
Minnesota
Tennessee (depending on how Locker plays)
Kansas City
New England (Brady's not getting any younger)
Denver (Peyton's not getting any younger)
Dallas
St Louis (time's running out on Bradford to perform)
San Diego (Rivers same as Bradford)
New Orleans (Bress isn't getting any younger)
Houston (how much time.how many years does Schaub have left?)
Philadelphia (yet to be seen)
Oakland (jury's out on Flynn, Pryor, and Wilson)

Again, we are 12 months out from the next draft, and many questions will be answered by the time the draft rolls around next May 8-10, but arguments can be made to justify 7 QB's being selected in the first 2 rounds. Can some drop to the 3rd round? Sure. Will team needs, draft postitions, and player ratings change? Definitely.


The only teams on that list I could realistically see drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds are:
Philly
Jacksonville
Cleveland
Arizona
and maybe Oakland just because they are unpredictable

7 QBs in the first 2 rounds is a giant stretch.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckIsGOAT wrote:
The only teams on that list I could realistically see drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds are:
Philly
Jacksonville
Cleveland
Arizona
and maybe Oakland just because they are unpredictable

7 QBs in the first 2 rounds is a giant stretch.

I would possibly add Tampa Bay to that list.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
LuckIsGOAT wrote:
The only teams on that list I could realistically see drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds are:
Philly
Jacksonville
Cleveland
Arizona
and maybe Oakland just because they are unpredictable

7 QBs in the first 2 rounds is a giant stretch.

I would possibly add Tampa Bay to that list.


As I would the Jets. Remember the Panthers selected Clausen in the 2nd and turned around and drafted Cam with the 1st pick
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
LuckIsGOAT wrote:
The only teams on that list I could realistically see drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds are:
Philly
Jacksonville
Cleveland
Arizona
and maybe Oakland just because they are unpredictable

7 QBs in the first 2 rounds is a giant stretch.

I would possibly add Tampa Bay to that list.


I doubt Tampa gives up on Freeman
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckIsGOAT wrote:
green24 wrote:
LuckIsGOAT wrote:
The only teams on that list I could realistically see drafting a QB in the first 2 rounds are:
Philly
Jacksonville
Cleveland
Arizona
and maybe Oakland just because they are unpredictable

7 QBs in the first 2 rounds is a giant stretch.

I would possibly add Tampa Bay to that list.


I doubt Tampa gives up on Freeman
Well they drafted a QB in the third...
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Romo just got a 7 yr 100m contract. Cowboys will not spend a 1st round pick on qb to ride the bench for the next 3 yrs. Give the Cowboys o-line and d-line all 7 rounds. That's all we need. Were stacked at the skill positions
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browns have their bookends in Thomas and Schwartz. Taking an OT in the 2nd round will not happen. Most likely a safety or ILB.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB back-to-back for San Francisco is not out of the question. But it all depends on their pending FA's in 2014.
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Tuitt wouldnt be bad if Atlanta goes to more of a 34 scheme, but if we stay mostly in a 4 man front, I dont see his position.

Smallwood is a waisted pick. We only use a ILB about 35 percent of the time. Nolan loves to be in a nickle package. Plus, Dent improved as the year went on.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danish49ers wrote:
CB back-to-back for San Francisco is not out of the question. But it all depends on their pending FA's in 2014.


I would agree; though we could potentially have many open spots next year, especially on defense. It doesn't look like we have been particularly active in terms of resigning any of our secondary guys. If nnamdi flops, he won't be brought back, and if he returns to form, he will be too expensive to bring back. Rogers may take a paycut since he's technically under contract. The niners like bigger corners, so they may not be interested in resigning Brown, which is a shame because I think he's easily our best cover corner. Cox or Brock I don't think is going to make it through preseason this year in my opinion (leaning cox is cut), and they are both free agents after the year regardless. Brock I think is likely to be brought back again, but he's nowhere near good enough to start.

Whitner is also a free agent, and weirdly, I think he may be the most likely to be back. People forget he's only 28, and while his coverage skills are awful, he hits like a mac truck, and is a defensive leader on the team and highly intelligent.

Justin is a free agent, so we could go DE/DT in round two, but I think we have some good youth there (especially with the drafting of Carradine and Dial and Okoye will have a year of football under his belt), and I think it likely that we bring Justin back on a 1 or 2 year deal. I'm leaning wide receiver in round 2 though because I think we'll address some corner need in free agency and resign at least Brock, and possibly just restructure Rogers. But I believe Crabs, Boldin and Manningham are all free agents after this year. I could see us bringing Boldin back on a one to two year deal depending on how he does, but I think Crabs is gone, and I think we will look somewhere other than Manningham for wide receiver and let him walk.
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