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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:27 am    Post subject: THREE-round pre-combine mock. Yet more changes... Reply with quote

Rip on it ALL you WANT. We're ALL going to be wrong, ANYWAYS. Very Happy
No trades. Wink
Let's get some thoughts about the overall mock for your team, folks. Most people post just when they have something negative to say. If you've got something positive, let's hear that, too. Or, whatever the critique might be. I can work with you, far as changing a pick, here or there.
I'll only do the three rounds, here, but if you would be interested in who I think your team might pick in the 4th round, ask away.

1ST ROUND:

#01. HOUSTON: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M.

#02. ST. LOUIS: (From Washington.) Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville.

#03. JACKSONVILLE: Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida.

#04. CLEVELAND: Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson.

#05. OAKLAND: Jadeveon Clowney, DE/OLB, South Carolina.

#06. ATLANTA: Khalil Mack, DE/OLB, Buffalo.

#07. TAMPA BAY: Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn.

#08. MINNESOTA: Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State.

#09. BUFFALO: Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M.

#10. DETROIT: Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M.

#11. TENNESSEE: Anthony Barr, DE/OLB, U.C.L.A.

#12. N.Y. GIANTS: Zack Martin, OT/OG, Notre Dame.

#13. ST. LOUIS: Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan.

#14. CHICAGO: Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama.

#15. PITTSBURGH: Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina.

#16. DALLAS: Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota.

#17. BALTIMORE: Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State.

#18. N.Y. JETS: Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech.

#19. MIAMI: Cyrus Kouandijo, OT, Alabama.

#20. ARIZONA: Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn.

#21. GREEN BAY: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama.

#22. PHILADELPHIA: Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State.

#23. KANSAS CITY: Marquise Lee, WR, U.S.C.

#24. CINCINNATI: Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State.

#25. SAN DIEGO: Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame.

#26. CLEVELAND: (From Indianapolis.) David Yankey, OG, Stanford.

#27. NEW ORLEANS: Odell Beckham Jr., WR, L.S.U.

#28. CAROLINA: Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia.

#29. NEW ENGLAND: Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh.

#30. SAN FRANCISCO: Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville.

#31. DENVER: Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida.

#32. SEATTLE: Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington.

2ND ROUND:

#33. HOUSTON: Kyle Van Noy, OLB, B.Y.U.

#34. WASHINGTON: Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt.

#35. CLEVELAND: Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois.

#36. OAKLAND: Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State.

#37. ATLANTA: Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State.

#38. TAMPA BAY: Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State.

#39. JACKSONVILLE: Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri.

#40. MINNESOTA: Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State.

#41. BUFFALO: Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, U.C.L.A.

#42. TENNESSEE: Stephon Tuitt, DT/DE, Notre Dame.

#43. N.Y. GIANTS: Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State.

#44. ST. LOUIS: Keith McGill, CB, Utah.

#45. DETROIT: Lamarcus Joyner, S/CB, Florida State.

#46. PITTSBURGH: Jason Verrett, CB, T.C.U.

#47. BALTIMORE: Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee.

#48. DALLAS: Louchiez Purifoy, CB, Florida.

#49. N.Y. JETS: Scott Crichton, DE/OLB, Oregon State.

#50. MIAMI: Tre Mason, RB, Auburn.

#51. CHICAGO: Kelcy Quarles, DT/DE, South Carolina.

#52. ARIZONA: Jack Mewhort, OT, Ohio State.

#53. GREEN BAY: Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska.

#54. PHILADELPHIA: Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech.

#55. CINCINNATI: Christian Jones, ILB/OLB, Florida State.

#56. SAN FRANCISCO: (From Kansas City.) Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State.

#57. SAN DIEGO: Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech.

#58. NEW ORLEANS: Chris Smith, DE/OLB, Arkansas.

#59. INDIANAPOLIS: Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor.

#60. CAROLINA: Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss.

#61. SAN FRANCISCO: Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State.

#62. NEW ENGLAND: Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State.

#63. DENVER: Dominique Easley, DT/DE, Florida.

#64. SEATTLE: Jarvis Landry, WR, L.S.U.

3RD ROUND:

#65. HOUSTON: Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona.

#66. WASHINGTON: Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida.

#67. OAKLAND: Zach Mettenberger, QB, L.S.U.

#68. ATLANTA: Ego Ferguson, DT, L.S.U.

#69. TAMPA BAY: (Will be the Jets' pick, because of the Revis trade.) Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers.

#70. JACKSONVILLE: Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor.

#71. CLEVELAND: Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State.

#72. MINNESOTA: Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford.

#73. BUFFALO: Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin.

#74. N.Y. GIANTS: Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame.

#75. ST. LOUIS: Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State.

#76. DETROIT: E.J. Gaines, CB, Missouri.

#77. SAN FRANCISCO: (From Tennessee.) Travis Swanson, C/OG, Arkansas.

#78. DALLAS: Ahmad Dixon, S, Baylor.

#79. BALTIMORE: Richard Rodgers, TE, California.

#80. N.Y. JETS: Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington.

#81. MIAMI: Brandon Thomas, OT/OG, Clemson.

#82. CHICAGO: Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas.

#83. CLEVELAND: (From Pittsburgh.) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood.

#84. ARIZONA: Jeremy Hill, RB, L.S.U.

#85. GREEN BAY: DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State.

#86. PHILADELPHIA: Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford.

#87. KANSAS CITY: Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford.

#88. CINCINNATI: Kareem Martin, DE, North Carolina.

#89. SAN DIEGO: Tyler Larsen, C/OG, Utah.

#90. INDIANAPOLIS: Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin.

#91. NEW ORLEANS: Anthony Johnson, DT, L.S.U.

#92. CAROLINA: Vic Hampton, CB, South Carolina.

#93. NEW ENGLAND: C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa.

#94. SAN FRANCISCO: Shane Skov, ILB, Stanford.

#95. DENVER: Dion Bailey, S, U.S.C.

#96. MINNESOTA: (From Seattle.) Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee.

M'kay; DONE. Rag on me brutally, if you MUST, but please give DECENT reasons. All I ask. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Titans pick.
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ttitansfan4life wrote:
Great Titans pick.

Thank you, Sir.
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You're suffering? what about me who has to see the Jags passing on the once in a decade defensive prospect to reach for a QB?
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I like how the draft falls for the Vikings, have Jake Matthews available basically would guarantee that they could trade back. Which I realize there are no trades, but for the Vikings I like it for that reason, Carr is taken too early in my opinion.
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JagsFanInNY wrote:
You're suffering? what about me who has to see the Jags passing on the once in a decade defensive prospect to reach for a QB?

Ah, THAT question. Because Clowney looks the type to act a FOOL, when he gets the big money. AND, your quarterback situation is AWFUL.
Explained, fully. Wink
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The Gnat wrote:
I like how the draft falls for the Vikings, have Jake Matthews available basically would guarantee that they could trade back. Which I realize there are no trades, but for the Vikings I like it for that reason, Carr is taken too early in my opinion.

Hear ya, but the QB pool drops off pretty drastically after Carr. You would agree, yes, Gnat?
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I like Dennard.
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ninjapirate wrote:
I like Dennard.

Thanks, bud.
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Lewan over Martin for NYG? Not a chance.

Plus I don't think OL will be the first pick - especially with Ealy, Gilbert, Dennard, and Verrett on the board.
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Kodaraw wrote:
Lewan over Martin for NYG? Not a chance.

Plus I don't think OL will be the first pick - especially with Ealy, Gilbert, Dennard, and Verrett on the board.

Disagree, because Lewan is a pure OT, be it at right or left, and Martin looks like he might be a better fit at guard. Not that he couldn't play tackle, but...
Besides, you guys drafted an awfully similar prospect in Pugh, last year, didn't y'all?
You've got to protect Eli, in ANY case.
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Good Bengals pick
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ochocinco4pres wrote:
Good Bengals pick

Thank you kindly.
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Suffering_Bills wrote:
JagsFanInNY wrote:
You're suffering? what about me who has to see the Jags passing on the once in a decade defensive prospect to reach for a QB?

Ah, THAT question. Because Clowney looks the type to act a FOOL, when he gets the big money. AND, your quarterback situation is AWFUL.
Explained, fully. Wink
not really a good explanation. With a terrible QB and a poor pass rush in 2011 the Jaguars went for the QB and moved up for a guy named Blaine Gabbert. One pick later the extremely gifted JJ Watt was drafted, and in the original slot they could have had Ryan Kerrigan. You do not reach for a QB, especially when you could get the best DE to hit the draft in probably 10 years.
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JagsFanInNY wrote:
Suffering_Bills wrote:
JagsFanInNY wrote:
You're suffering? what about me who has to see the Jags passing on the once in a decade defensive prospect to reach for a QB?

Ah, THAT question. Because Clowney looks the type to act a FOOL, when he gets the big money. AND, your quarterback situation is AWFUL.
Explained, fully. Wink
not really a good explanation. With a terrible QB and a poor pass rush in 2011 the Jaguars went for the QB and moved up for a guy named Blaine Gabbert. One pick later the extremely gifted JJ Watt was drafted, and in the original slot they could have had Ryan Kerrigan. You do not reach for a QB, especially when you could get the best DE to hit the draft in probably 10 years.

OR, the next Pac-Man. We don't know, until they get the money, right? Rolling Eyes
I'm NOT denying Clowney's pure TALENT. Not for a MOMENT.
However, if your QB situation is HORRENDOUS, you are going NOWHERE until it is upgraded.
For whatever it may be worth, and since the question wasn't asked, I have your 2nd-rounder as being Kony Ealy.
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