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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:47 am    Post subject: 2014 Mock #8: 4 Rounds w/ 1st round trades Reply with quote

Notes prior to reading the draft:
-Trade compensation is essentially made up, although one thing for sure is the mystical 'trade chart' was not consulted once because I think it is out of date. Also, please realize some of these trades I 'forced' a bit for the sake of experimentation. I do not think the rationale for any of them is totally ridiculous.
-Only one free agent assumption has been made for this entire draft and that is the Raiders spending a ton and addressing a bunch of needs.
-If you are unhappy with the player but not the position, how about you just agree to chalk that up to personal opinion. I can only think of one instance in the entire draft where I put the 2nd best available instead of the best, and that is Bortles at #1 overall.

Round 1
1. HOU: Blake Bortles QB UCF
2. **CLE: Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville -- Cleveland is thrilled to see the top QB in the class make it past the #1 overall pick, and they make a push to get up ahead of the Jaguars to get their guy. St. Louis is in a good position and agree to move down for Cleveland's 2nd, 4th, and 6th round picks.
3. **ATL: Jadeveon Clowney DE South Carolina -- The Jaguars would happily take Clowney, but there is likely going to be a team that will value Clowney and benefit from him more than the Jaguars would right now. Atlanta is that team in my mind and they are willing to give up their 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up and get Clowney as well as one of the 5th round picks the Jaguars have.
4. STL(v/CLE): Jake Matthews T Texas A&M
5. OAK: Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M
6. **DET: Sammy Watkins WR Clemson -- The Lions need a weapon opposite Megatron and the best, most dynamic WR in the class is slowly falling. He likely wouldn't make it past Tampa Bay, so Detroit moves up the 4 spots (for their 3rd and 5th round picks) to get their guy.
7. TB: Khalil Mack DE/OLB Buffalo
8. MIN: Derek Carr QB Fresno State
9. BUF: Greg Robinson T Auburn
10. JAX(v/DET): Anthony Barr LEO UCLA
11. **NYJ: Mike Evans WR Texas A&M - Missing out on the last pass rusher that presents value around here, the Titans are ready to move down. The Jets need to grab an offensive skill position player to help this offense. For a 4th round pick, the Jets move ahead of a bunch of teams also looking for skill positions and get the big WR from Texas A&M
12. NYG: CJ Mosley LB Alabama
13. STL: Hasean Clinton-Dix FS Alabama
14. **PHI: Calvin Pryor FS Louisville -- Philly could really stand to get better safety play and in a relatively weak class for safeties, grabbing one of the top 2 FS prospects is a very good idea. The 8 pick jump costs the Eagles a 4th round pick.
15. PIT: Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan State
16. DAL: Aaron Donald DT Pittsburgh
17. BAL: Zack Martin T/G Notre Dame
18. TEN(v/NYJ): Louis Nix III NT Notre Dame
19. MIA: Cyrus Kouandjio T Alabama
20. ARI: Taylor Lewan T Michigan
21. **DEN: Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State -- Denver's secondary is their big weakness and moving up to grab the guy who might be the best overall CB in the class makes a lot of sense. Moving up the 10 spots will cost a 4th and 7th round pick.
22. CHI(v/PHI): Kony Ealy DE Missouri
23. KC: Marqise Lee WR USC
24. CIN: Jason Verrett CB TCU
25. SD: Marcus Roberson CB Florida
26. CLE: Xavier Su'a-Filo G UCLA
27. NO: Dee Ford OLB/DE Auburn
28. CAR: Odell Beckham Jr. WR LSU
29. **STL: Kelvin Benjamin WR Florida State -- St. Louis did not get a true #1 WR with their 2 first round picks, so they move back into the round , right in front of their division rivals, who also need a WR, and get their guy. The Patriots get the 2nd round pick St. Louis got from the Browns. Additionally, the Rams swap 4th round picks with the Patriots.
30. **TB: Eric Ebron TE UNC -- The top TE in the class is going to be an awfully attractive option when Green Bay is on the clock. The Niners would happily move into the early 2nd if one of those team wanted to move up to grab their guy. Tampa Bay could be that team, and all it would cost is a swapping of 4th round picks.
31. GB(v/DEN): Kyle Van Noy OLB BYU
32. SEA: Allen Robinson WR Penn State

Round 2
1. HOU: Stephon Tuitt DE Notre Dame
2. WAS: Bradley Roby CB Ohio State
3. NE(v/STL v/CLE): RaShede Hageman DT Minnesota
4. OAK: Timmy Jernigan DT Florida State
5. JAX(v/ATL): David Yankey G Stanford
6. SF(v/TB): Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
7. JAX: Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois
8. MIN: Ryan Shazier OLB Ohio State
9. BUF: Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech
10. TEN: Trent Murphy DE/OLB Stanford
11. NYG: Cyril Richardson G Baylor
12. STL: Telvin Smith OLB Florida State
13. DET: Kyle Fuller CB Virginia Tech
14. PIT: DaVante Adams WR Fresno State
15. DAL: Ed Reynolds FS Stanford
16. BAL: Jarvis Landry WR LSU
17. NYJ: Jimmie Ward SS Northern Illinois
18. MIA: Kelcy Quarles DT South Carolina
19. CHI: Will Sutton DT Arizona State
20. ARI: Zach Mettenberger QB LSU
21. GB: Austin Sefarian-Jenkins TE Washington
22. PHI: Jeremiah Attaochu OLB Georgia Tech
23. CIN: Scott Crichton DE Oregon State
24. SF: Travis Swanson C Arkansas
25. SD: Deone Bucannon SS Washington State
26. NO: Lamarcus Joyner CB/FS Florida State
27. IND: Louchiez Purifoy CB Florida
28. CAR: Morgan Moses T Virginia
29. SF: Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB Nebraska
30. NE: Weston Richburg C Colorado State
31. DEN: Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas
32. SEA: Antonio Richardson T Tennessee

Round 3
1. HOU: Trevor Reilly OLB Utah
2. WAS: Chris Borland ILB Wisconsin
3. OAK: Marcus Smith DE Louisville
4. JAX(v/ATL): Keith McGill CB Utah
5. NYJ: Troy Niklas TE Notre Dame
6. JAX: DaQuan Jones DT Penn State
7. CLE: Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State
8. MIN: Chris Smith DE Arkansas
9. BUF: Paul Richardson WR Colorado
10. NYG: Dominique Easley DT Florida
11. STL: Victor Hampton CB South Carolina
12. JAX(v/DET): KaDeem Carey RB Arizona
13. SF: Craig Loston SS LSU
14. DAL: Christian Kirksey OLB Iowa
15. BAL: Bryan Stork C Florida State
16. NYJ: Yawin Smallwood ILB Connecticut
17. MIA: Joel Bitonio T/G Nevada
18. CHI: Ahmad Dixon SS Baylor
19. CLE: Tre Mason RB Auburn
20. ARI: Demarcus Lawrence OLB Boise State
21. GB: Dion Bailey FS USC
22. PHI: Martavis Bryant WR Clemson
23. KC: Anthony Johnson DE LSU
24. CIN: Billy Turner T/G North Dakota State
25. SD: Gabe Jackson G Mississippi State
26. IND: Dakota Dozier G Furman
27. NO: Jack Mewhort T Ohio State
28. CAR: Bashaud Breeland CB Clemson
29. NE: CJ Fiedorowicz TE Iowa
30. SF: Robert Herron WR Wyoming
31. DEN: Carl Bradford OLB Arizona State
32. MIN: Anthony Steen G Alabama

Round 4
1. HOU: Terrence Mitchell CB Oregon
2. WAS: Jared Abbrederis WR Wisconsin
3. ATL: Ego Ferguson DT LSU
4. SF(v/TB): Brandon Thomas G Clemson
5. JAX: Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
6. STL(v/CLE): AJ McCarron QB Alabama
7. OAK: Bishop Sankey RB Washington
8. MIN: Carlos Hyde RB Ohio State
9. BUF: Shayne Skov ILB Stanford
10. NE(v/STL): Mike Davis WR Texas
11. DET: Jordan Zumwalt OLB UCLA
12. TEN: Lache Seastrunk RB Baylor
13. NYG: Pierre Desir CB Lindenwood
14. JAX: Jordan Tripp OLB Montana
15. TEN(v/NYJ): Jaylen Watkins CB Florida
16. MIA: Jeremy Hill RB LSU
17. CHI: Ross Cockrell CB Duke
18. PIT: Daniel McCullers NT Tennessee
19. DAL: Terrence Brooks FS Florida State
20. ARI: EJ Gaines CB Missouri
21. GB: Justin Ellis NT Louisiana Tech
22. CHI(v/PHI): Tyler Larsen C Utah State
23. CIN: David Fales QB San Jose State
24. KC: Crockett Gillmore TE Colorado State
25. SD: Josh Huff WR Oregon
26. NO: Lamin Barrow ILB LSU
27. CLE: Christian Jones ILB Florida State
28. CAR: Kareem Martin DE UNC
29. TB(v/SF): Seantrel Henerson T Miami
30. STL(v/NE): Caraun Reid DT Princeton
31. GB(v/DEN): Chris Davis CB Auburn
32. SEA: Michael Sam LEO Missouri
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Switch Barrow and Jones in the 4th and it's a great Saints mock. Maybe take a WR in the 3rd unless you think we sign a FA WR.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give us Ebron over Beckham Jr. and this draft is pretty tremendous.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Salright.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atlanta giving up both their 2nd and their 3rd for Clowney is ridiculous.

and unlikely.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like Carr before pick 15, that said, the rest of the picks are good, with Hyde being the most questionable after that, I could see them going CB or safety prior to RB depth.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only a 4th to trade down 10 spots? Dislike all the picks except for ASJ.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fine with the trade up if you give Denver Marcus or Chris Smith round two and Christian Jones over Bradford round 3
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Jets I'd prefer Sefarian-Jenkins in the second, then Cooks and Bailey in third under your board. Ideally I would trade 2 and 3 to move up for Ebron, but I honestly doubt he falls as far as 30.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mockable wrote:
For Jets I'd prefer Sefarian-Jenkins in the second, then Cooks and Bailey in third under your board. Ideally I would trade 2 and 3 to move up for Ebron, but I honestly doubt he falls as far as 30.
Rumor has it Ebron has gained significant weight and is slower as a result. That should/could hurt him seeing as his whole deal was threat he was in the receiving game.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While nice players in their own right, I don't really see Ryan Shazier and Chris Smith as players that fit Zimmer's defensive scheme for the Vikings.

Zim likes his LBs to be bigger and more down hill run stoppers that can shed blocks. Zim liks his DEs to be taller, bigger, longer arms and can set the edge on run plays. I'd probably mock someone else in those spots.

suggestions in your mock of those still available:

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Lamarcus Joyner
Trent Murphy
Kyle Fuller
Jimme Ward

3rd round
Yawin Smallwood
Victor Hampton
Gabe Jackson
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will never like any mock that has the eagles trading up. I consider the whole idea of trading up stupid.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make it Gabe Jackson in the 3rd and that is an A+ draft for the Bills.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjapirate wrote:
I will never like any mock that has the eagles trading up. I consider the whole idea of trading up stupid.
What is stupid about the idea that a team might find a player they really like or need to the point that they are willing to part with some assets they possess to acquire that player?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trentwannabe wrote:
Make it Gabe Jackson in the 3rd and that is an A+ draft for the Bills.


Was going to say the same exact thing. Overall pretty solid though.
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