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Lane Johnson Suspended Four Games due to PED Violation
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JammerHammer21


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NormSizedMidget wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Not surprised. It was obvious he was juicing, just a matter of time before he got caught.


This isn't supposed to be rude at all, but why was it obvious?

(I didn't really see him much so IDK anything here, just want to know)


Ruskie is a troll
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JammerHammer21 wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Not surprised. It was obvious he was juicing, just a matter of time before he got caught.


This isn't supposed to be rude at all, but why was it obvious?

(I didn't really see him much so IDK anything here, just want to know)


Ruskie is a troll

Nah, he's just the smartest person in the room.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
JammerHammer21 wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Not surprised. It was obvious he was juicing, just a matter of time before he got caught.


This isn't supposed to be rude at all, but why was it obvious?

(I didn't really see him much so IDK anything here, just want to know)


Ruskie is a troll

Nah, he's just the smartest person in the room.


Always 3 steps ahead.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well damn that really sucks, curious to see what he took
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green24 wrote:
JammerHammer21 wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Not surprised. It was obvious he was juicing, just a matter of time before he got caught.


This isn't supposed to be rude at all, but why was it obvious?

(I didn't really see him much so IDK anything here, just want to know)


Ruskie is a troll

Nah, he's just the smartest person in the room.


Indefinitely=22 hours?
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yankee0724 wrote:
green24 wrote:
JammerHammer21 wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Not surprised. It was obvious he was juicing, just a matter of time before he got caught.


This isn't supposed to be rude at all, but why was it obvious?

(I didn't really see him much so IDK anything here, just want to know)


Ruskie is a troll

Nah, he's just the smartest person in the room.


Indefinitely=22 hours?


He gave it the best effort he could.
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NormSizedMidget wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Not surprised. It was obvious he was juicing, just a matter of time before he got caught.


This isn't supposed to be rude at all, but why was it obvious?

(I didn't really see him much so IDK anything here, just want to know)
Ruskie posts this in every thread where someone gets busted.

http://overthecap.com/costs-lane-johnsons-suspension/

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Per the CBA rules Johnson will be required to pay back 4/17ths of his signing bonus proration for the season. In addition he will forfeit a portion of a roster bonus that he will be paid in August and will lose 4/17ths of his $495,000 base salary. All told that should add up to a loss of $934,226 for Johnson. He had been scheduled to earn $1,307,404, so he will now play the season out for just $373,388. It is also likely that his guarantees will void with the suspension as it is common for teams to have clauses that coid future guarantees following suspension. Johnsonís contract is fully guaranteed.

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stallyns wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
RuskieTitan wrote:
Not surprised. It was obvious he was juicing, just a matter of time before he got caught.


This isn't supposed to be rude at all, but why was it obvious?

(I didn't really see him much so IDK anything here, just want to know)
Ruskie posts this in every thread where someone gets busted.

http://overthecap.com/costs-lane-johnsons-suspension/

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Per the CBA rules Johnson will be required to pay back 4/17ths of his signing bonus proration for the season. In addition he will forfeit a portion of a roster bonus that he will be paid in August and will lose 4/17ths of his $495,000 base salary. All told that should add up to a loss of $934,226 for Johnson. He had been scheduled to earn $1,307,404, so he will now play the season out for just $373,388. It is also likely that his guarantees will void with the suspension as it is common for teams to have clauses that coid future guarantees following suspension. Johnsonís contract is fully guaranteed.


But what does this do to Johnson's HOF chances?

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Oline, huh? I cannot think of any of oline getting busted for something like this. ANyone want to refresh my memory?
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Anyone think the questions raised in this article hold merit?

http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphia-eagles/post/_/id/6089/issues-raised-by-johnson-ped-report

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Taking a step back, a suspension would cast doubts upon more than just Johnson.

Head coach Chip Kelly has gotten a lot of attention for his training methods and his sports science-based approach to football. It didn't raise many questions when linebacker Jake Knott was suspended earlier this year. But now, with a first-round pick and starter reportedly testing positive for PEDs, there will be plenty of speculation about what's in those custom smoothies the players drink after every practice.

Johnson would be the fifth Eagles player suspended for performance enhancing drugs. This would be the first time, however, that two Eagles have tested positive in the same year. Instead of a minor player whose absence would barely be noticed, Knott becomes part of a trend for the 2013 NFC East champions. If there are no more positive tests, there will be no more suspicions. But if the trend continues, questions will be asked
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Beatnik wrote:
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Stupid.

Barbre should be okay as a replacement, but still stupid.


I don't think its stupid. Doping history suggests a large number of athletes in all sports are doping, and tests are nowhere near advanced enough to catch anything but a minority.


When doping invade a sport, it's very easy to see and it did'nt happen really often. The signs don't lie: You see no names becoming superstars (sometimes late in the career), records are being broken by huge margin etc.

The only examples i can think of are MLB 1997-2003, Cycling since before Amstrong up until now, 100 M running in the 80's and then in the last years.

There is probably many olympic sports i don't know enough but in professional sports I don't think it's widespread.


You should watch the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster if you really believe what you just wrote.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to think the Head Coach and Team Nutritionist wouldn't be dumb enough to put PED's in post-practice smoothies and then hand them out to all the players.
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I gotta laugh at Barbre being a good replacement as bad as he was in GB.

FWIW, I said the day he was gone that someone would develop him, dude had a ridiculous amount of physical ability. We just couldn't figure out how to get it out of him.
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Kampman74 wrote:
Oline, huh? I cannot think of any of oline getting busted for something like this. ANyone want to refresh my memory?


Shane Olivea got busted for the Chargers.

You can also look through here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_and_coaches_suspended_by_the_NFL
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HTTRG3Dynasty wrote:
Anyone think the questions raised in this article hold merit?

http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphia-eagles/post/_/id/6089/issues-raised-by-johnson-ped-report

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Taking a step back, a suspension would cast doubts upon more than just Johnson.

Head coach Chip Kelly has gotten a lot of attention for his training methods and his sports science-based approach to football. It didn't raise many questions when linebacker Jake Knott was suspended earlier this year. But now, with a first-round pick and starter reportedly testing positive for PEDs, there will be plenty of speculation about what's in those custom smoothies the players drink after every practice.

Johnson would be the fifth Eagles player suspended for performance enhancing drugs. This would be the first time, however, that two Eagles have tested positive in the same year. Instead of a minor player whose absence would barely be noticed, Knott becomes part of a trend for the 2013 NFC East champions. If there are no more positive tests, there will be no more suspicions. But if the trend continues, questions will be asked
.



Yes I do but I don't think they're looking at the bigger picture. It's not just the Eagles, just like it wasn't just the Patriots spying on other teams. It's naive to think most players and teams don't try to find ways around the rules when that much is on the line.
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