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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: RedandGold's Best Mock you can get for free 3RD ROUND 4/1/06 Reply with quote

Minnesota trades 2006 round 1 (17) 2006 round 2 (48 and 51) plus a conditional pick in 2007 for New Orleans round 1 (2) fairness of trade due to draft index

1. Houston Texans
Reggie Bush RB USC
If Houston keeps the pick its pretty obvious that they will in fact take Bush. Bush is an all around playmaker that can run catch and block much like Faulk. Versitility will be the key.
I'm sure the Texans will take trade calls but wont want to slide too far since they have so many needs.

2.Minnesota Vikings
Matt Leinart QB USC
We all know the Saints have alot of needs and will look to trade...the Vikes have a huge need at QB and the ammo to trade it up. The Vikes know that Brad can lead them for a season or 2 if needed but he's not a long term solution and the top 3 QBs figure to be off the board when the Vikes make thier pick so they bite the bullet and make the trade... They may appear to give up alot but they did great in FA and the Saints wont let the pick go cheap

3. Tennessee Titans
Vince Young QB Texas
McNair's cap number age and injuries figure strongly into this pick. I currently have Young with a slight edge over Cutler so he gets the nod. Titans will have a season to make Young ready for the pros.

4. New York Jets
D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia
The Jets Offensive line has taken a beating in recent years and unless they can move up and get Bush without giving up too much I think they stand Pat and fix some major needs especially on the offensive line.

5. Green Bay Packers
Mario Williams DE North Carolina State
No surprise here as the Pack works their defense back to a level of respectability. The only other possibilities here are Hawk and a trade down...but Williams is just too good to pass.

6. San Francisco 49ers
A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio State
The 9ers will look really hard at Davis and Huff here but Hawk is as close to a sure thing as you can get. Between that and losing Peterson right now I have to give him the edge.

7. Oakland Raiders
Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt
Having signed Brooks to a short term contract they can train Cutler for a season before throwign him in. Sure theres other possibilities but I dont think the Raiders can afford to pass on a franchise QB right now.

8. Buffalo Bills
Haloti Ngata DT Oregon
Bunkley has really closed the gap and could actually be the pick...Ultimately the Bills need a run stuffing NT and they get the best of the class in Ngata. He alone should improve their run defense as offenses are constantly forced to double team the big man.

9. Detroit Lions
Michael Huff CB/S Texas
Huff is a must pick here. Hes a playmaker plain and simple and will quickly improve a terrible detroit secondary. He's got it all: experience at safety and CB, speed, power instincts.

10. Arizona Cardinals
Vernon Davis TE Maryland
Arizona has secretly been building a high power offense..Edge Warner Boldin Fritzgerld and now Davis. Green is gonna be smiling as he takes the best TE in the draft and possible the best in the past 5 years to come out. With 4.3 speed, no LB is gonna be able to cover Davis one on one.

11. St. Louis Rams
Jimmy Williams CB/S Virginia Tech
The Rams secondary wasnt respectable before FA and it still isnt in fact its probably worse. A lot of good WRs in the NFC West and they are gonna have to be covered if the Rams want to get back into the playoff hunt.

12. Cleveland Browns
Broderick Bunkley DT Florida State
Bunkley is a force...a run stuffer that can collapse the pocket and get after the QB. I'm also making this pick because the Browns fan page seems to want Bunkley the most.

13. Baltimore Ravens
Winston Justice OT USC
The Ravens really need help along their offensive line....Ya simply cant be a run 1st team if you dont get a good push up front to open the running lanes. Justice can immediately start the right side (his college position) and eventually take over for Ogdens later.

14. Philadelphia Eagles
Chad Greenway OLB Iowa
Greenway can make plays sideline to sideline... he didnt have a good combine but it will be overlooked because of his great college career and potential.

15. Denver Broncos
Chad Jackson WR Florida
Rod Smith is near retirement and Jackson will beable to step in and take that role as the Broncos look to the future.

16. Miami Dolphins
Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State
The Fins could easily choose an OLB here but they seem to be focused on offense and Chambers and Booker are ok but Holmes will be a constant threat for Culpepper to find.

17. New Orleans Saints
Ernie Sims OLB Florida State
Saints managed to trade down and can address their weak LB corps. Sims has been flying up draft boards because of his speed and ability in coverage...he will start immediately.

18. Dallas Cowboys
Marcus McNeill OT Auburn
The Offensive line of Dallas has been abused far too much and it must be stopped here and now. McNeill is an excellent OT and can play LT or RT. Only bad thing that can be said about him is the injury risk factor.

19. San Diego Chargers
Ko Simpson FS South Carolina
Simpson is the best FS int he draft.... a real ballhawk and thats somethign this secondary is lacking..WR and OT will have to wait a bit longer.

20. Kansas City Chiefs
Antonio Cromartie CB Florida State
The 1st thing Herm did when he took over was to get rid of 3 CBs. leaving the Chiefs pretty bare in the secondary dept. Cromartie is big fast and fully recovered...Hill is more polished but size is gonna matter in this case.

21. New England Patriots
LenDale White RB USC
White may very well be the best RB in the entire draft. Not the constant homerun threat as Bush...but hes a 4 down back that can play. Hes big and tough between the tackles and has the speed to bounce it outside....Dillon is the wrong side of 30 and coming off injury.

22. Denver Broncos
Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College
Losing Pryce really hurt the Broncos and they fill the void here. Kiwi is NFL ready and is a terror to QBs.

23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tye Hill CB Clemson
Bucks wont mind taking Hill here...Maybe not the biggest need but they doint have a lot of depth at CB and Hill has all the tools to be successful.

24. Cincinnati Bengals
Gabe Watson DT Michign
I'll be the 1st to say I'm not as high on Watson as some others are...Either way The Bengals are getting serious about stopping the run and Watson if motivated will be a huge force for the defense. Adams is on fumes and is more of a mentor at this stage of his once great career.

25. New York Giants
Manny Lawson OLB/DE North Carolina State
Lawson will start from day 1 at SLB and wont let go of the spot. Lawson can hold well against the run and get after the QB whenever asked.

26. Chicago Bears
Leonard Pope TE Georgia
At 6'7" Pope will make a big target for Rex... the Bears have made it clear this TE is a position they want to upgrade and Pope is better then any TE on their roster.

27. Carolina Panthers
Mercedes Lewis TE UCLA
I guess theres gonna be a fight for who gets the damn ball in Carolina. Panthers have been tuning thier offense in an effort to get back to the Super Bowl and have been making some good strides so far.

28. Jacksonville Jaguars
DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
Fragile Fred has worn out his welcome and noone believe he can stay healthy for a season.. Williams will start by sharing carries and then take over the job.

29. New York Jets
Laurance Maroney RB Minnesota
Jets know Curtis Martin has about 1 season left in him and Maroney is a franchise back that happened to fall into their laps...Make no mistake about it the Jets are in full swing rebuilding mode.

30. Indianapolis Colts
DeMarco Ryans OLB Alabama
Colts wont mind if Ryans falls this far...Colts would love a RB here but takingone now would be a reach so a trade down is also a possibility.

31.Seattle Seahawks
Max Jean-Gilles OG Georgia
If the Hawks dont solidify the interior of the line quickly then Alexander can forget about being rushing champ again.

32. Pittsburgh Steelers
Sinorice Moss WR Miami
Moss is alot like Randel El that was lost to FA and fixing the WR corps is a must for Pittsburgh.

Round 2
33. Houston Texans
Jon Scott OT Texas
We all know the Texans need help on the O line and here it is with a native Texan.

34. New Orleans Saints
D'Qwell Jackson ILB Maryland
Saints continue to build their LB corps and still have a couple more picks to help their team.

35. New York Jets
Nick Mangold OC Ohio State
Jets get serious about the offensive line and replace their lost center witht he best in the draft.

36. Green Bay Packers
Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio State
Packers were tempted with Hawk in the 1st but get a solid OLB in the 2nd...Hawks teammate.

37. San Francisco 49ers
Ashton Youboty CB Ohio State
Secondary was last in the league and needs some upgrades if they want to get back on track.

38. Oakland Raiders
Tamba Hali DE Penn State
Hali is a 1st round talent that fell a little bit Its ok though the raiders woudl take him in a second.

39. Tennessee Titans
Thomas Howard OLB UTEP
Howard has speed to burn and will be flying all over the field as teh Titans are in full swing rebuilding.

40. Detroit Lions
Abdul Hodge ILB Iowa
Huff and Hodge will go along way towards making Detroits defense respectable.

41. Arizona Cardinals
Donte Whitner FS Ohio State
Whitner can play either safety spot and will be the final piece of teh Zona secondary.

42. Buffalo Bills
Eric Winston OT Miami
Whoever wins the starting QB job will need protection.

43. Cleveland Browns
Kamerion Wimbley OLB/DE Florida State
Much like Lawson is a bit of a tweener and will probably find a home at OLB in the Browns defense. He can hold up against the runa nd excels at rushing the QB.

44. Baltimore Ravens
Claude Wroten DT LSU
Ravens want to make sure Lewis is free to roam.

45. Philadelphia Eagles
Joseph Addai RB LSU
We all saw that RB was a major need when the undersized Westbrook went down last year....no one on the depth chart could handle the load. Addai will come in and split carries with Westbrook to start.

46. St. Louis Rams
Jason Allen CB/S Tennseese
Did I mention secondary was a major weak link in the Rams game?

47. Atlanta Falcons
Jonathon Joseph CB South Carolina
Falcons got their prized DE in the 1st and now they add on to their secondary with a good CB.

48. New Orleans Saints
Orien Harris DT Miami
Harris is very quick to collapse the pocket and will be a welcome addition as the Saints continue their rebuilding efforts.

49. Dallas Cowboys
Pat Watkins S Florida State
Watkins can start immediately next wo Williams making an excellent tandem at safety .

50. San Diego Chargers
Jeremy Trueblood OT Boston College
Offensive line has played well for a group of no names but their is easily room for an upgrade here.

51. New Orleans Saints
Darnell Bing SS USC
Safety probably isnt their biggest need but Bing is the BPA at this point and a tremendous value.

52. New England Patriots
Anwar Phillips CB Penn State
Pats better do somethign and quick as they are losing too much in FA and have to replenish their team ASAP or watch TV in January.

53. Washington Redskins
Darryl Tapp DE Va Tech
DE is definately a place that the Skins would like to see a little help and Tapp works as hard as anyone.

54. Kansas City Chiefs
Elvis Dumervil DE Lousiville
A little undersized but has the speed and the moves to get after the QB.

55. Cincinnati Bengals
Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame
Fasano isnt spectular but he is solid.. and the Bengals did lose Schobel in FA so they have a pretty good need at TE.

56. New York Giants
Daryn College OT Boise State
G-Men are set at OT this year but a successor must be found and trianed to protect Eli in the long run and they get a large protector here.

57. Chicago Bears
Demario Minter CB Georgia
The Bears have one of the leagues most dominant defenses...but they could use a little more help at CB.

58. Carolina Panthers
Rod Wright DT Texas
Injuries and Age have hurt their startign DT tandem and another body to rotate in will do them a world of good. Wright is a top talent when motivated.

59. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Davin Joseph OG Oklahoma
Joseph will make sure Caddy has all the running room he needs.

60. Jacksonville Jaguars
Derek Hagan WR Arizona State
Jimmy Smith is 37 and wont be around forever. Hagan hast everythign ya want in a WR except blazing speed....

61. Denver Broncos
Bernard Pollard S Purdue
Has a lot of the same qualities as Lynch....who better to train him?

62. Indianapolis Colts
Brian Calhoun RB Wisconsin
We all know the colts biggest need by far is RB and if they dont manage to take one in the 1st round they have no choice but to take the best of the rest here in round 2.

63. Seattle Seahawks
Brodie Croyle QB Alabama
Hasselbeck is good but they lost Wallace and dont have anyone of starting material on their roster. Croyle is a pocket passer and is often compared to Hasselbeck....a potential successor but for now a quality backup.

64. Pittsburgh Steelers
Greg Eslinger OC Minnesota
Steelers knew they wanted a Center coming intot eh draft and they get a good one here.

Round 3

65.Houston Texans
Daniel Bullocks S Nebraska
looks like the Texans found their WR in FA and can afford to take care of the little things now.

66.Houston Texans
Ryan O'Callaghan OG California
Houston continues to add beef to their offensive line.

67.Green Bay Packers
Taitusi Lutui OG USC
When the Packers let their 2 best gaurds get away they really paid for it. Lutui can play OG/OT and hes almost immoveable at 370 Lbs. Whoever is behind center will learn to appreciate the big man blocking.

68.San Francisco 49ers
Jason Avant WR Michigan
The receiving corps has gotten a little thin and needs a boost.

69.Oakland Raiders
Jesse Mahelona DT Tennessee
Sapp is almost done and Washington was already cut. DT is a pretty good sized need at this point.

70. Buffalo Bills
Greg Lee WR Pittsburgh
Moulds is hunting for a new home and Evens cant do it alone.

71.New York Jets
Kelly Jennings CB Miami
Untill Strait or Miller really step up the secondary is gonna be a need.

72.Arizona Cardinals
Jonathon Lewis DT Virginia Tech
I know the Cards grabbed Clancey in FA but Lewis can come in and make a difference for one of the leagues worst run defenses.

73.Buffalo Bills
Anthony Smith S Syracuse
Wiht the loss of Milloy, another body must be found for the secondary and Smith is the man.

74. Detroit Lions
Rob Sims OG Ohio State
Only thing really missing from the offense is protecting the QB. Sims has the potential to start for the Lions right away.

75.New England Patriots
A.J.Nicholson OLB Florida State
Need at LB allows the Pats to overlook a couple off the field issues with Nicholson.

76.Philadelphia Eagles
Andrew Whitworth OT LSU
Whitworth is definately starting material...he may have to wait a season but he will be a rock on the right side.

77. St. Louis Rams
Ray Edwards DE Purdue
Rams continue to shore up an awful defense and get back intot he playoff hunt.

78.Cleveland Browns
Travis Wilson WR Oklahoma
Wilson will develop into a solid number 2 WR to play opposite Edwards.

79.Atlanta Falcons
Charles Spencer OG Pittsburgh
With this pick maybe Vick will stay in the pocket for more then 3 seconds before running....nah who am I kidding...Oh well at least he'll have another blocker downfield.

80.Dallas Cowboys
Roger McIntosh OLB Miami
The Boyz need a LB that can cover alot of distance and get that in McIntosh. He will excel on the weak side. Only knock agaisnt him is some durability issues.

81.San Diego Chargers
Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
I know that ANTONIOGATES believes that the Chargers don't need a WR....I looked up all the stats from the 2005 season and let me say that anyone that doesnt see a huge need here is nuts...I'm not gonna argue the point. Stovall is gonna be a beast and possibly take over for McCardell when he retires next year.

82.Miami Dolphins
Jon Alston OLB Stanford
Miami starts getting younger at LB.

83.Minnesota Vikings
Gerris Wilkinson OLB Georgia Tech
Can play inside or outside and may be a slight reach att his point but the Vikes wanted to get an OLB and hes the best of the bunch.

84.San Francisco 49ers
Leon Washington RB Florida State
the 9ers cant be happy with their run game from last year and a fresh challenger will be welcome.

85.Kansas City Chiefs
Martin Nance WR University of Miami (Ohio)
K.C. needs to get younger and bigger at WR. Nance has proven that he's back after injury and will give Green another weapon and an excellent target in the redzone.

86.New England Patriots
Cedric Griffin CB Texas
The Pats continue to rework their secondary and Griffin can play either CB or S.

87. New York Giants
Demetrice Webb CB Florida
Giants could use some depth in their secondary.

88.Chicago Bears
Kevin Boothe OG Cornell
Rex cant do much when hes on his back....never a good sign when ya start like 7 games in 3 years....Protection MUST improve.

89.Carolina Panthers
Omar Jacobs QB Bowling Green
Beyond Jake theres literally nothing at QB. Jacobs is a steal here and will be a very solid backup in the NFL.

90.Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Manaia Brown DT BYU
Bucks continue to bring in youth on the defensive side of the ball

91.Cincinnati Bengals
Victor Adeyanju DE Indiana
A DE with a ton of potential...witht he right coaching hes gonna be a star. .

92.Jacksonville Jaguars
Joe Klopfenstein TE Colorado
Jags came intot he draft looking to sanp a good TE and found one at the bottom of the 3rd.

93..Atlanta Falcons
DonTrell Moore RB New Mexico
Ducket and Dunn will play together this seaon and thats it...Dunns cap number and age are getting too high...and Ducket never lieve up to his potential...and with an extra pick the Falcons can afford to gamble here.

94.Indianapolis Colts
Richard Marshall CB Fresno St.
Dungy likes physical CBs and Marshall can develop.

95.Minnesota Vikings
Mike Degory OC Florida
Birk has age and injury concerns and the future center is right here in Degory.

96.Pittsburgh Steelers
Roman Harper S Alabama
Chris Hope is gone and depth is needed.

97.New York Jets
Dominique Byrd TE USC
Compensotory Pick
Fills a need at TE and good value for the end of the 3rd

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great giants draft Very Happy
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rams wont take jimmy williams due to his attude and turning away many coachs with it and he wont be a CB he will have to make a switch to S in order be a play maker

good second pick

decent 3rd pick but we need a SLB
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DeAngelo and Big Joe are great picks... Hagan is terrible though... we do not need a WR at all.
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I dont really understand how you see that trade as being fair. The conditional pick would have to be in the top 21 for the trade to break even. So whats the condition? Why would the Saints trade down from #2 if there is just a chance to break even? Maybe if it was an unconditional 1st rounder in 07 I could see it, but even then its still sketchy.

Plus some of the Saints picks just dont make any sense. Why would they take D'Qwell Jackson after they already drafted a LB? They need a Center and Mangold is still on the board. He should be the pick there.

And then Bing at #51. He would not even have a chance to start over Smith and Bullocks, so why draft him? You dont draft depth in the 2nd round when you have as many holes as the Saints have. They need to get guys that will play. Davin Joseph would make much more sense there.

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Best Draft Ive seen in weeks...
South Carolina Gamecocks 7-6

Jags | Sharks | Lakers | Giants
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I know it's fun to dream so I won't be to hard on you. I will say, however, that I have never seen a worse trade scenario for the Saints or any team for that matter. Let me guess, Vikings fan? Frosty the Snowman has a better chance of overthrowing Satan and taking over Hell than that scenario has of actually taking place. In short, never gonna happen.
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For the Saints fan
Jackson is ILB and Sims is OLB in short all LBs need an upgrade much like the Bengals did last year.
Conditional pick would probably be a 1st rounder unless the Vikes have a top 5 pick then probably a 2nd rounder.

Bing is great value in th 2nd I know ya need a center too but I also look at value.
I cant see the Saints staying at number 2 they have too many needs and D'Brick wont solve them all.
The current LB corps is pathetic and gets upgraded along with a couple other starters.

Besides it sounds like ya want D'Brick in the 1st the best center in the 2nd....that wont solve the defensive problems which far outweigh the offensive problems. Have you seen the Saints LBs?
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i love the colts draft

Where is Anthony Smith???
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He went to the Bills in round 3
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cmon do u know anything about the panthers? we would never take mercedes lewis in the first, he can't block for s#@$. We signed two execellent DT's in free agency and kris jenkins is returning. DT is loaded.
finally qb is a need? Chris weinke is one of the best backups in the nfl and stefan lefors ain't bad either

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2nd-brian caulhoun
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RedandGold wrote:
For the Saints fan
Jackson is ILB and Sims is OLB in short all LBs need an upgrade much like the Bengals did last year.
Conditional pick would probably be a 1st rounder unless the Vikes have a top 5 pick then probably a 2nd rounder.

Bing is great value in th 2nd I know ya need a center too but I also look at value.
I cant see the Saints staying at number 2 they have too many needs and D'Brick wont solve them all.
The current LB corps is pathetic and gets upgraded along with a couple other starters.

You're missing the point. What good are two LBs when the other teams are just storming up the middle and crushing Brees every other play? Dont you think it would be wise to protect that $60 million QB? They need a center much more then thy need 2 LBs.

Value is one thing, commen sense is another. Bing just does not make sense at all. He would end up being a ST player on the Saints. If Cutler fell to the Pats in the 1st should they take him?

I agree the Saints will trade down but its not going to be to 17. I would be stunned if they went down farther then 7. You just dont drop from the top 5 down into the middle of the first unless its a huge trade up. You have the Vikings move that far up and not even offering equal compensation. The Saints are in control. Not the Vikings. They better come with some serious cheese if they want to get to #2.

Besides it sounds like ya want D'Brick in the 1st the best center in the 2nd....that wont solve the defensive problems which far outweigh the offensive problems. Have you seen the Saints LBs?

Where did I say D'Brick and Mangold? Confused

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With the signing of Sam Adams, I don't think Watson would be a round one pick for the Bengals.

1. Tamba Hali or Donte Whitner or Jason Allen
2. Daniel Bullocks or Rod Wright or Charles Spencer
3. Joel Klopfenstein or Dominique Bryd or Dusty Dvorcek or Victor Adeyanju

Fasano in the 2nd isn't terrible but I don't think he would be BPA for the Bengals which is exactly the way they've set themselves up to draft with their FA moves, so thats why I don't like it.

I would put Victor Adeyanju with the other people I listed because I do like him but i'm not sure of his pass rush abilities which is what the Bengals need more than anything from their 4th DE. They have decent run stopping DE's with Justin Smith, Geathers, and 2nd year man Jon Fanene. The last 5 games last year when Shuan Smith emerged the Bengals only gave up 91 rush yards per game and that includes Larry Johnson lighting them up for over 200.

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Good lions draft. We may go Offensive line in the 2nd, but either way good job.
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Would like to see giants take DT in third over CB
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