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Calvert28


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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in the show, euron promised to return to cersei with a gift. if they're going to follow the books, he's going to capture a dragon using the dragonbinder horn thing. or at least thats the most plausible thing i can come up with



That horn controls people not dragons. That how he got elected he used the horn to gain some subtle control on the ironborn at the kingsmoot.


Then once the guy who blew the horn died the influence it provided disappeared and a lot of the ironborn wanted to go attack the reach instead of go to slavers bay.


Where does it say that the horn control's people?

I saw that absolutely no where in the books.

And that scene was not meant to demonstrate the horn's power. But just to show how easily Euron throws a person's life away just to make a entrance. The horn itself was only meant to interrupt the whole meet so all eyes would be on him.

I mean if you heard a God awful screetch and then see some guy burning alive from within. Youre gonna stop and pay attention regardless of what youre doing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calvert28 wrote:
ninjapirate wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
in the show, euron promised to return to cersei with a gift. if they're going to follow the books, he's going to capture a dragon using the dragonbinder horn thing. or at least thats the most plausible thing i can come up with



That horn controls people not dragons. That how he got elected he used the horn to gain some subtle control on the ironborn at the kingsmoot.


Then once the guy who blew the horn died the influence it provided disappeared and a lot of the ironborn wanted to go attack the reach instead of go to slavers bay.


Where does it say that the horn control's people?

I saw that absolutely no where in the books.

And that scene was not meant to demonstrate the horn's power. But just to show how easily Euron throws a person's life away just to make a entrance. The horn itself was only meant to interrupt the whole meet so all eyes would be on him.

I mean if you heard a God awful screetch and then see some guy burning alive from within. Youre gonna stop and pay attention regardless of what youre doing.


it is a theory from the actions of the ironborn post the blowing of the horn and then them changing their mind about going halfway across the world and attacking the reach instead when the horn blower dies.

I mean we won't know for sure until the winds of winter come out and victarion blows that thing and takes control of the unsullied instead of any dragon.
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Is the valonqar a thing in the show? that cersei will be killed by her younger brother which is assumed tyrion but will almost for sure be jaime?

nah. they show the prophecy flashback, but she basically just says she'll marry a king, the king will have 20 kids, she'll have 3 kids with blonde hair, and that all 3 will die

basically all of it except the valonqar
I'm honestly not even upset by that. The character development and the walls that are developing between Cersei and Jaime are building up to it anyway
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really confused by what Theon's purpose is. His redemption arc just went out the window.
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Really confused by what Theon's purpose is. His redemption arc just went out the window.


Seems like he started becoming reek again before he jumped.
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O'Doyle Rules wrote:
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Really confused by what Theon's purpose is. His redemption arc just went out the window.
Seems like he started becoming reek again before he jumped.
That's what I saw as well.

However, I still agree that I no longer understand his purpose. I am pretty confident he'll end up sacrificing his life for Yara, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O'Doyle Rules wrote:
LeeEvans wrote:
Really confused by what Theon's purpose is. His redemption arc just went out the window.


Seems like he started becoming reek again before he jumped.
Yeah definitely seemed that way but what point does that have in the show and who is he going to be Reek for?

I kind of hate show Euron and that should have been Victarion's awesome battle scene but it was good seeing Dany's plans finally hit a bit of a speed bump for once.
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seminoles1 wrote:
O'Doyle Rules wrote:
LeeEvans wrote:
Really confused by what Theon's purpose is. His redemption arc just went out the window.
Seems like he started becoming reek again before he jumped.
That's what I saw as well.

However, I still agree that I no longer understand his purpose. I am pretty confident he'll end up sacrificing his life for Yara, though.
It's either that or for the Starks, it's the only thing that makes sense at all for his character.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This show has really fallen off since season four. It's rough casting when the audience is rooting for good characters to be killed because of the acting choices, ala the Sand Skakes.
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This show has really fallen off since season four. It's rough casting when the audience is rooting for good characters to be killed because of the acting choices, ala the Sand Skakes.
Id argue that they weren't ever interesting characters. They're just hell bent on revenge and really pretty stupid in general. Seemed like a genuine waste to even include them and they would have been better if leaving Doran alive since he was actually a good actor and a good character.
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LeeEvans wrote:
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This show has really fallen off since season four. It's rough casting when the audience is rooting for good characters to be killed because of the acting choices, ala the Sand Skakes.
Id argue that they weren't ever interesting characters. They're just hell bent on revenge and really pretty stupid in general. Seemed like a genuine waste to even include them and they would have been better if leaving Doran alive since he was actually a good actor and a good character.


I would say it was more with how they were written and not the actors themselves. Had no issue with the actors but the characters and how they butchered dorne.
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LeeEvans wrote:
Really confused by what Theon's purpose is. His redemption arc just went out the window.


I see what D and D did there. Perfect opportunity to bring Gendry back and have him row Theon to safety.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Euron really is just a combination of Victarion and Euron. I think the actor would have made a good Victarion had they decided to make him a character. Nice touch to make him fight with an axe. Definitely reminded me of The Reaver.
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is the show really going to just ignore the fact that arya is a warg like that and act like that isn't fundamental to her character becoming a faceless man?


Show is dumb.
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As great as last season was. Euron is just not the same bad guy that Ramsey was. Infact none of them are. Even the White Walkers I don't think would have tried to cross the wall until they knew Ramsey was dead.

Really missing the true villain of the series.

#teamRamsey
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