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MetalHerzeleid


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well what a shocker, Cardinals may not be interested in getting a QB. It's pretty obvious Green needs an impact player now and with James and hopefully a line that will be addressed in this years draft, if we don't make some slight improvement its going to demoralize our team big time. Drafting a QB in the first I think is one of those situations where we are still considered "rebuilding".
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MetalHerzeleid wrote:
Well what a shocker, Cardinals may not be interested in getting a QB. It's pretty obvious Green needs an impact player now and with James and hopefully a line that will be addressed in this years draft, if we don't make some slight improvement its going to demoralize our team big time. Drafting a QB in the first I think is one of those situations where we are still considered "rebuilding".


We're in win now mode, something people fail to understand.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stchamp98 wrote:
MetalHerzeleid wrote:
Well what a shocker, Cardinals may not be interested in getting a QB. It's pretty obvious Green needs an impact player now and with James and hopefully a line that will be addressed in this years draft, if we don't make some slight improvement its going to demoralize our team big time. Drafting a QB in the first I think is one of those situations where we are still considered "rebuilding".


We're in win now mode, something people fail to understand.


all they see is losing seasons in a row

they dont realize whats really going on

but then again its not like zona gets lots of preferred games or press coverage

the jets and giants and teams like that get front page for signing a 7th rounder
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We get overlooked because of the past, which in a way is pretty sad.

The Patriots weren't always good you know.....
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its funny that everyone here has the same opinion on everything, thats the reason why I hardly post here, and just lurk... The more I think about it, the more it makes sence that we draft a first round QB. cause Kurt Warner WILL get injured, he can play, but wont last 16 games, and navarre at backup would ruin our season.

Joey Harrington, and Kerry Collins are both looking at other teams, and will go with other teams. So we need a 2nd QB, and to answer your next question a 3rd round rookie qb will not fill our backup needs. I know more QB names will come out after the draft, and unless the cardinals are positive that they can get one of those, they need to draft a QB in the first.

Saying all this, im not a big cutler fan, but am a huge vince young fan, I saw most of his games last year, and love the way he plays the game. I really think the 10th pick is a bad spot to be for the cardinals, because Vince Young will probley be gone, and most of the top tier talent will just have been took off the board.

So I think the only other option besides taking a 1st round QB, is a trade down, and then a trade for a QB.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stchamp98 wrote:
We get overlooked because of the past, which in a way is pretty sad.

The Patriots weren't always good you know.....


with so many young people on this site young enough to be my kids LOL

they are in a what have you done for me lately kind of mindset

there earliest memories are probably the pats competitive every year
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nate_1224 wrote:
its funny that everyone here has the same opinion on everything, thats the reason why I hardly post here, and just lurk... The more I think about it, the more it makes sence that we draft a first round QB. cause Kurt Warner WILL get injured, he can play, but wont last 16 games, and navarre at backup would ruin our season.

Joey Harrington, and Kerry Collins are both looking at other teams, and will go with other teams. So we need a 2nd QB, and to answer your next question a 3rd round rookie qb will not fill our backup needs. I know more QB names will come out after the draft, and unless the cardinals are positive that they can get one of those, they need to draft a QB in the first.

Saying all this, im not a big cutler fan, but am a huge vince young fan, I saw most of his games last year, and love the way he plays the game. I really think the 10th pick is a bad spot to be for the cardinals, because Vince Young will probley be gone, and most of the top tier talent will just have been took off the board.

So I think the only other option besides taking a 1st round QB, is a trade down, and then a trade for a QB.


the draft is 7 rounds long why does it have to be in the first??

history says that 1st round qb's have more bust factor attached to them as they have more pressure with a bigger salary

how do you know that warner will get injured ?

vince young in college and vince young in the n f l as 2 totally different topics
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nate_1224 wrote:
its funny that everyone here has the same opinion on everything, thats the reason why I hardly post here, and just lurk... The more I think about it, the more it makes sence that we draft a first round QB. cause Kurt Warner WILL get injured, he can play, but wont last 16 games, and navarre at backup would ruin our season.

Joey Harrington, and Kerry Collins are both looking at other teams, and will go with other teams. So we need a 2nd QB, and to answer your next question a 3rd round rookie qb will not fill our backup needs. I know more QB names will come out after the draft, and unless the cardinals are positive that they can get one of those, they need to draft a QB in the first.

Saying all this, im not a big cutler fan, but am a huge vince young fan, I saw most of his games last year, and love the way he plays the game. I really think the 10th pick is a bad spot to be for the cardinals, because Vince Young will probley be gone, and most of the top tier talent will just have been took off the board.

So I think the only other option besides taking a 1st round QB, is a trade down, and then a trade for a QB.


I wasn't aware you could foretell the future in that Warner will get hurt...

Young doesn't fit the offense and if you think we're gonna take Young and ruin our WR's, your obviously dilusional.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so were just going to pray warner doesnt get hurt??? lol, ok good plan.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nate_1224 wrote:
so were just going to pray warner doesnt get hurt??? lol, ok good plan.



no, not even close, were ganna draft a qb in a later round who actually fits our system unlike young or cutler.
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shawn wrote:
nate_1224 wrote:
so were just going to pray warner doesnt get hurt??? lol, ok good plan.



no, not even close, were ganna draft a qb in a later round who actually fits our system unlike young or cutler.


so you want a 3rd round rookie quaterback to play back up, espicially when you have a starting quaterback that you know will most likely get injured, to me this just doesnt make sence. Read my whole post though, the only way I can see that we dont draft a QB in the 1st, is if we feel we can pick one up in the second wave of free agents, or we trade for one. Im not saying that we HAVE to draft a qb in the 1st, im just saying its not a bad idea.
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nate_1224 wrote:
shawn wrote:
nate_1224 wrote:
so were just going to pray warner doesnt get hurt??? lol, ok good plan.



no, not even close, were ganna draft a qb in a later round who actually fits our system unlike young or cutler.


so you want a 3rd round rookie quaterback to play back up, espicially when you have a starting quaterback that you know will most likely get injured, to me this just doesnt make sence. Read my whole post though, the only way I can see that we dont draft a QB in the 1st, is if we feel we can pick one up in the second wave of free agents, or we trade for one. Im not saying that we HAVE to draft a qb in the 1st, im just saying its not a bad idea.


It worked for the Chicago Bears(and actually, Orton went on the 2nd day) and their offense is far worse than ours WITHOUT Edge.
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nate_1224 wrote:
shawn wrote:
nate_1224 wrote:
so were just going to pray warner doesnt get hurt??? lol, ok good plan.



no, not even close, were ganna draft a qb in a later round who actually fits our system unlike young or cutler.


so you want a 3rd round rookie quaterback to play back up, espicially when you have a starting quaterback that you know will most likely get injured, to me this just doesnt make sence. Read my whole post though, the only way I can see that we dont draft a QB in the 1st, is if we feel we can pick one up in the second wave of free agents, or we trade for one. Im not saying that we HAVE to draft a qb in the 1st, im just saying its not a bad idea.


imo, it is a bad idea, unless that first round qb is leinart because young and cutler would be back ups to, just like a late round qb like jacobs and olson, and those two fit our system.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nate_1224 wrote:
shawn wrote:
nate_1224 wrote:
so were just going to pray warner doesnt get hurt??? lol, ok good plan.



no, not even close, were ganna draft a qb in a later round who actually fits our system unlike young or cutler.


so you want a 3rd round rookie quaterback to play back up, espicially when you have a starting quaterback that you know will most likely get injured, to me this just doesnt make sence. Read my whole post though, the only way I can see that we dont draft a QB in the 1st, is if we feel we can pick one up in the second wave of free agents, or we trade for one. Im not saying that we HAVE to draft a qb in the 1st, im just saying its not a bad idea.


a 3rd round qb will have better value yes i wouldnt miond at all

charlie frye in brownie land was a 3rd rounder and he will start this year
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I think Ngata, Simpson, and Jacobs are three good selections. It all depends on if Denny thinks Omar can be the future quarterback.
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