Why is John Carlson still a Viking?

thestonedkoala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3798

Huge cap hit, very unproductive and we have his replacement with Rhett Ellison. So why hasn't he been cut yet? We can find a cheaper replacement out on free agency (And do we really need another TE with Ellison and Rudolph as the starters?). I mean can we at least do him a favor and cut him now, so he can find a job before training camps start?

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rpmwr19 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 16906 Location: Stillwater, MN

It may save the Wilfs real money, but it doesn't save any money against the cap. Should the Vikings cut him this year he would have a net negative impact of $2,450,000 on the cap.

It's much more feasible, if he should perform similarly, to cut him next year.
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Kellerman · Joined: 16 May 2010 Posts: 3158 Location: Amsterdam

Can't we just do this in the Chris Kluwe thread?

Because I'm guessing that's what this is about...
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SteelKing728 · Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 10846 Location: Pittsburgh

Who cares this year. It will hurt us if we cut him.

He'll won't see the field much anyways with Kyle Rudolph as our main target, and Rhett Ellison at H-back.
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Purplexing · Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject:

Ellison is Carlson's replacement?! Shocked

Carlson was injured and recovering when he was signed. I have to guess that the rehab wasn't as effective as was hoped.

By restructuring of his deal, the Vikings want to get a longer look at what he can do before giving up on him too soon.

In the future, if free agents who were injured saw the Vikings dump Carlson after 1 year, while he was still not 100%, they might not want to consider signing with Minnesota due to the lack of job security. Or, they may ask for more guaranteed money up front, which conflicts with what any team wants to do for a recently injured player.

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vikingsrule · Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject:

Ive got nothing against cutting Carlson if he gets beaten out by someone else. at this point, he doesnt save the team money on the cap so there probably isnt much reason to let him go at this point.
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rpmwr19 · Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 16906 Location: Stillwater, MN

It should be noted that Ellison and Carlson don't play the same "position." Ellison is used as more of an H-Back whereas Carlson is used as a weakside pass catcher.

To say that Carlson or Ellison is higher up on the depth chart isn't something that can really be done. They are both asked to do specific, and different things.

I do agree with the premise that, based on production, Carlson is paid too much, but due to being injured coming into the season last year I'm willing to give him this year.
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Duff Man · Joined: 05 May 2013 Posts: 60 Location: Sveltville

Yes, Carlson had a tough year last year.. But only because he struggled with injuries.

Give him a chance this year, hopefully can replicate what he did in SEA. He's a great player IMO, and he's a homegrown talent as well.