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ManInCharge


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Making the jump Reply with quote

The Palmer/Mulumba/Hubbard thread got me thinking about a lot of our young guys that are primed to take the next step. I've posted before that fans as a whole get excited about the new shiny rookies, but the biggest additional contributions often come from the Year 2 and Year 3 players who begin developing in the system after an offseason in the team's program. The obvious example here is Mike Daniels vs. Datone Jones last year.

So, before we hit OTA reports, what second or third year player (2012 or 2013) makes the big jump this year? What ones pull a Jerron McMillian and fall flat on their face?
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be so negative here... but I am not so concerned about who will make a jump (some, inevitably will) as I am concerned with the development of two guys that we need to be an integral part of our defense: Datone Jones and Nick Perry.

This is what I will be watching closely.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2nd year guys

Aaron Adams
Victor Aiyewa
Antonio Dennard
Garth Gerhart
Alex Gillett
Ina Liaina
Jumal Rolle
Jeremy Vujnovich
David Bakhtiari
Chris Banjo
Sam Barrington
Brandon Bostick
Josh Boyd
Kevin Dorsey
Johnathan Franklin
Chris Harper
Dujuan Harris
Michael Hill
Micah Hyde
Datone Jones
Eddie Lacy
Andy Mulumba
Nate Palmer
Jake Stoneburner
Lane Taylor
Andrew Tiller
Myles White

3rd year guys

Don Barclay
Jarrett Boykin
Mike Daniels
Casey Hayward
Nick Perry
Sean Richardson
Jerel Worthy
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexGreen#20 wrote:
2nd year guys

Aaron Adams
Victor Aiyewa
Antonio Dennard
Garth Gerhart
Alex Gillett
Ina Liaina
Jumal Rolle
Jeremy Vujnovich

David Bakhtiari
Chris Banjo
Sam Barrington
Brandon Bostick
Josh Boyd
Kevin Dorsey
Johnathan Franklin
Chris Harper
Dujuan Harris
Michael Hill
Micah Hyde
Datone Jones
Eddie Lacy
Andy Mulumba
Nate Palmer
Jake Stoneburner
Lane Taylor
Andrew Tiller
Myles White


Not guys I'm sure are really in the discussion...
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCPackers_08 wrote:
AlexGreen#20 wrote:
2nd year guys

Aaron Adams
Victor Aiyewa
Antonio Dennard
Garth Gerhart
Alex Gillett
Ina Liaina
Jumal Rolle
Jeremy Vujnovich

David Bakhtiari
Chris Banjo
Sam Barrington
Brandon Bostick
Josh Boyd
Kevin Dorsey
Johnathan Franklin
Chris Harper
Dujuan Harris
Michael Hill
Micah Hyde
Datone Jones
Eddie Lacy
Andy Mulumba
Nate Palmer
Jake Stoneburner
Lane Taylor
Andrew Tiller
Myles White


Not guys I'm sure are really in the discussion...

Agreed for the most part, but a few could surprise us and crack the roster. Most are PS material to me, but some combination of White/Harper/Dorsey could steal the 6th WR spot, for example. Not holding my breath on that, though.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCPackers_08 wrote:
AlexGreen#20 wrote:
2nd year guys

Aaron Adams
Victor Aiyewa
Antonio Dennard
Garth Gerhart
Alex Gillett
Ina Liaina
Jumal Rolle
Jeremy Vujnovich

David Bakhtiari
Chris Banjo
Sam Barrington
Brandon Bostick
Josh Boyd
Kevin Dorsey
Johnathan Franklin
Chris Harper
Dujuan Harris
Michael Hill
Micah Hyde
Datone Jones
Eddie Lacy
Andy Mulumba
Nate Palmer
Jake Stoneburner
Lane Taylor
Andrew Tiller
Myles White


Not guys I'm sure are really in the discussion...


I still like Chris Harper.

If he was our rookie this year, we'd be all over him, IMO. Wouldn't be surprised if he finds his way onto this roster.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Datone Jones

Randall Cobb (wasn't able to make that jump because of injury last year)

Nick Perry

Mulumba
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bakh. He was a serviceable LT last year. We knew he needed a full off season of weight room work to get the most out of him. Interested to see how he looks this year vs last.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Datone Jones - We need to get this guy on the field, and we need to generate the pass rush from the D-Line. - He's gotta be our guy!
Micah Hyde - I'd love for him to turn into a great 4th CB/S role, he showed a lot of promise and if he can jump into that role, I think he'd solidify our secondary (if HaHa pans out)
David Bakhtiari - Future LT, he needs to add weight, but he had a good rookie season, he has to improve though.
Chris Banjo - Same with Hyde, he just can't get burnt.
Johnathan Franklin - I'd LOVE for Franklin to be our third down guy, he needs to work on his Pass Pro skills, but he's got nice hands and reminds me a lot of Bernard on Cincinnati. I'd love to use him + Starks more in the first half, and then let Lacy take over the second half.

Eddie Lacy - I doubt he runs for 1200, because we're a high powered offense with good depth a RB, but he's going to be amazing as our 4th quarter guy, and he'll be fine.

Jarrett Boykin - He played great as our 3rd option, I expect his role to taken by Adams in TC, but he'll be a fine #4
Mike Daniels - IMO our best defensive Lineman last season, it's time he goes up even more. Him and Datone are so crucial.
Casey Hayward - He can be amazing, and I think he will be. IF he plays how I expect him to, bye bye Tramon.
Nick Perry - He'll have his role reduced, but I think this is the season he plays well. Might learn something from JPep
Jerel Worthy - Time for Worthy to stay healthy
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Bakhtiari - improves
Chris Banjo - improves
Sam Barrington - improves
Brandon Bostick - improves but might get screwed because we drafted D!ckRod
Josh Boyd - sputters
Kevin Dorsey - finds his way back to the practice squad
Johnathan Franklin - explodes
Chris Harper - Jerron McMillian
Dujuan Harris - depends on the knee
Micah Hyde - improves
Datone Jones - slightly improves but not enough for some people around here
Eddie Lacy - no way he should have a sophomore slump
Andy Mulumba - heads to the CFL
Nate Palmer - stays on as a ST guy


As for others, Perry will get hurt again after doing next to nothing and we write him off as a bust while Worthy significantly improves while staying healthy.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCPackFan wrote:
David Bakhtiari - improves
Chris Banjo - improves
Sam Barrington - improves
Brandon Bostick - improves but might get screwed because we drafted D!ckRod
Josh Boyd - sputters
Kevin Dorsey - finds his way back to the practice squad
Johnathan Franklin - explodes
Chris Harper - Jerron McMillian
Dujuan Harris - depends on the knee
Micah Hyde - improves
Datone Jones - slightly improves but not enough for some people around here
Eddie Lacy - no way he should have a sophomore slump
Andy Mulumba - heads to the CFL
Nate Palmer - stays on as a ST guy


As for others, Perry will get hurt again after doing next to nothing and we write him off as a bust while Worthy significantly improves while staying healthy.


How you just described my boy Harper broke my heart.

EDIT: If Mulumba is cut by us, I highly doubt his NFL career is over and he has to go directly to the CFL, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. Just saying.
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NormSizedMidget wrote:
NCPackFan wrote:
David Bakhtiari - improves
Chris Banjo - improves
Sam Barrington - improves
Brandon Bostick - improves but might get screwed because we drafted D!ckRod
Josh Boyd - sputters
Kevin Dorsey - finds his way back to the practice squad
Johnathan Franklin - explodes
Chris Harper - Jerron McMillian
Dujuan Harris - depends on the knee
Micah Hyde - improves
Datone Jones - slightly improves but not enough for some people around here
Eddie Lacy - no way he should have a sophomore slump
Andy Mulumba - heads to the CFL
Nate Palmer - stays on as a ST guy


As for others, Perry will get hurt again after doing next to nothing and we write him off as a bust while Worthy significantly improves while staying healthy.


How you just described my boy Harper broke my heart.

EDIT: If Mulumba is cut by us, I highly doubt his NFL career is over and he has to go directly to the CFL, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. Just saying.


Palmer is gone. Bradford will take the roster from the small school reach/long-shot and never look back. And, we'll like it. I think Bradford has a real shot at being a fan favorite and starter at some point. If nothing else, Mulumba is a better, smarter, more instinctive football player and wins that last OLB spot over Nate.

Have to agree with the Perry speculation. But, don't want too. It's kind of a shame since Perry might make a heckuva 4/3 DE. Worthy? This is the year if he's going to show anything. I hope he does, considering it took two picks to get him to Green Bay.

Janis replaces Dorsey on the PS. Or, in the unfortunate case of injury, Janis makes the 53 and Gillett or one of a half-dozen others replaces Dorsey.

Wouldn't mind seeing Harper stickůsomewhere in Packerville.

Bostick had his shot so I don't consider him "screwed." Competition, baby.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the first time in his time in Green Bay I'm kinda excited about Perry. It might sound crazy but I look for a huge jump in impact plays there this year.

I also think Barrington, Bak, Tretter, Boyd, and Mulumba will be a good bit better than last seen.

Have some doubts with Bostick, Jones, Worthy, and Franklin.

Of that young group I feel Hyde, Hayward, Cobb, Lacy, Boykin, Daniels, etc are about what they will be. They might get better but they are close to the upside now and don't see a big jump coming.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

palmy50 wrote:
For the first time in his time in Green Bay I'm kinda excited about Perry. It might sound crazy but I look for a huge jump in impact plays there this year.

I also think Barrington, Bak, Tretter, Boyd, and Mulumba will be a good bit better than last seen.

Have some doubts with Bostick, Jones, Worthy, and Franklin.

Of that young group I feel Hyde, Hayward, Cobb, Lacy, Boykin, Daniels, etc are about what they will be. They might get better but they are close to the upside now and don't see a big jump coming.


Welcome to the Perry club. Drinks are to your right.


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A healthy Nick Perry gets 10 sacks easily.


I think Hyde makes a significant jump this year. He just seems way too intelligent not to.
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