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NormSizedMidget


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: How Good Is Mike Daniels? Reply with quote

I'll let you play the game how you want.

Our X best defender?

X rank at his position?

All Pro, Pro Bowl?

Just a try hard on a bad defense?


You tell me. I really expected to be "disappointed" by him and the hype coming in after all the talking he did and what not. I saw a role player, it seems I'm wrong and I don't mind eating this flavor of crow.

But how good is he, and can he be?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: How Good Is Mike Daniels? Reply with quote

NormSizedMidget wrote:
I'll let you play the game how you want.

Our X best defender?

X rank at his position?

All Pro, Pro Bowl?

Just a try hard on a bad defense?


You tell me. I really expected to be "disappointed" by him and the hype coming in after all the talking he did and what not. I saw a role player, it seems I'm wrong and I don't mind eating this flavor of crow.

But how good is he, and can he be?


its actually tough to really tell how good he is because hes playing in the wrong scheme... that boy will excel greatly in a 4-3 (which might actually be why Dom is testing that formation out more this year)

hes easily our best DL (& its not even close)...

he has probowl potential, but I don't think he will ever put up the '#'s needed to catch the casual fans eye (he absolutely capable of doing what Melton did a couple years ago though)

if he can play out the rest of the year at the level he has displayed thus far i think his name should be throw around as arguably a top 15 DL in the league...

i doubt he'll ever be elite, but he can be really good for a while
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our 6th best defender

Middle of the pack at his position

Hair below a Pro Bowl Player

He is insanely strong and I hate saying this but seems to bring a ton of fire and intensity to our D. I really hope he can keep it up
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pack4life7 wrote:
Our 6th best defender



uhhhh what?

who do you have ahead of him?

Mike should be no lower than #4 & could cement #2 by years end
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going exclusively by what we've seen this season, our defense is Mike Daniels, Tramon Williams, HHCD, and some dudes.

He was incredible against the Jets.

Gifs upcoming.
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I have to say, I see no way we don't start 1-4, with our schedule.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pack4life7 wrote:
Our 6th best defender

Middle of the pack at his position

Hair below a Pro Bowl Player

He is insanely strong and I hate saying this but seems to bring a ton of fire and intensity to our D. I really hope he can keep it up


I also want to know the 5 above him.

Not sure how he's a middle of the pack 34DE though...that's worse to me than calling him 6th.

But yeah, you have my attention.


If ya had only watched the last two games of GB, there's almost zero change you're putting anyone else #1. That's what blows my mind, only two games but still.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: How Good Is Mike Daniels? Reply with quote

driftwood wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
I'll let you play the game how you want.

Our X best defender?

X rank at his position?

All Pro, Pro Bowl?

Just a try hard on a bad defense?


You tell me. I really expected to be "disappointed" by him and the hype coming in after all the talking he did and what not. I saw a role player, it seems I'm wrong and I don't mind eating this flavor of crow.

But how good is he, and can he be?


its actually tough to really tell how good he is because hes playing in the wrong scheme... that boy will excel greatly in a 4-3 (which might actually be why Dom is testing that formation out more this year)

hes easily our best DL (& its not even close)...

he has probowl potential, but I don't think he will ever put up the '#'s needed to catch the casual fans eye (he absolutely capable of doing what Melton did a couple years ago though)

if he can play out the rest of the year at the level he has displayed thus far i think his name should be throw around as arguably a top 15 DL in the league...

i doubt he'll ever be elite, but he can be really good for a while


This is basically where I'm at. This is dumb to do after 2 games (yes, I'm going to do it anyway) but he's on pace for 8 sacks and 64 tackles.

PB voting is dumb and I guess I should have said "really should be a PBer" not will people vote him for him lo. Ya know what I mean? That true caliber.


Assume he went to a 43.

1 being the worst and 10 being Geno Atkins. Where do you think he's be as an UT?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: How Good Is Mike Daniels? Reply with quote

NormSizedMidget wrote:
driftwood wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
I'll let you play the game how you want.

Our X best defender?

X rank at his position?

All Pro, Pro Bowl?

Just a try hard on a bad defense?


You tell me. I really expected to be "disappointed" by him and the hype coming in after all the talking he did and what not. I saw a role player, it seems I'm wrong and I don't mind eating this flavor of crow.

But how good is he, and can he be?


its actually tough to really tell how good he is because hes playing in the wrong scheme... that boy will excel greatly in a 4-3 (which might actually be why Dom is testing that formation out more this year)

hes easily our best DL (& its not even close)...

he has probowl potential, but I don't think he will ever put up the '#'s needed to catch the casual fans eye (he absolutely capable of doing what Melton did a couple years ago though)

if he can play out the rest of the year at the level he has displayed thus far i think his name should be throw around as arguably a top 15 DL in the league...

i doubt he'll ever be elite, but he can be really good for a while


This is basically where I'm at. This is dumb to do after 2 games (yes, I'm going to do it anyway) but he's on pace for 8 sacks and 64 tackles.

PB voting is dumb and I guess I should have said "really should be a PBer" not will people vote him for him lo. Ya know what I mean? That true caliber.


Assume he went to a 43.

1 being the worst and 10 being Geno Atkins. Where do you think he's be as an UT?



right now, 7-8ish... i don't know if he has Geno's ceiling though...

Either way I'd easily give up Peppers, Perry, Neal & Datone just to clone 1 more Daniels
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

driftwood wrote:
Pack4life7 wrote:
Our 6th best defender



uhhhh what?

who do you have ahead of him?

Mike should be no lower than #4 & could cement #2 by years end


Clay
Tramon
Shields
House
Raji

Are no brainers for me
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HaHa Clinton-Dix:



Closing speed by HHCD.



Another nice play coming down from up top against the run.

Josh Boyd:



Boyd doing a nice job watching the draw.



Boyd in the middle taking on the double.

Miscellaneous:



Really nice play by Perry finding the back off of the stunt.



Guion getting murdered in short yardage.



Nice play by Neal and Daniels

Mike "MVP" Daniels



Daniels perfectly capping his gap.



Daniels forcing the INT.



Daniels with a stop in the redzone against awful blocking.



Daniels slanting for a huge loss.



Daniels blowing up a run play.



Daniels with the sack.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pack4life7 wrote:
driftwood wrote:
Pack4life7 wrote:
Our 6th best defender



uhhhh what?

who do you have ahead of him?

Mike should be no lower than #4 & could cement #2 by years end


Clay
Tramon
Shields
House
Raji

Are no brainers for me


the bolded is where i strongly disagree (& i love our CB's)

AlexGreen#20 wrote:


Mike "MVP" Daniels



props on the gifs AG


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, Daniels is at worst our second best defender.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Through two weeks, I'd say Daniels 1A, Tramon 1B
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pack4life7 wrote:
driftwood wrote:
Pack4life7 wrote:
Our 6th best defender



uhhhh what?

who do you have ahead of him?

Mike should be no lower than #4 & could cement #2 by years end


Clay
Tramon
Shields
House
Raji

Are no brainers for me


The first three I'd listen to an argument on. Raji, sure, why not (I don't agree at all but not the point). Davon House?!

I think only Shields and Clay are better TBH and I'm not even sure how long I'll believe that.
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AlexGreen#20 wrote:
IMO, Daniels is at worst our second best defender.


I have to believe right now, in 2014, he's our best. Will that continue? I don't know. But if you're putting him much past that, you're not paying attention I would certainly say.
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